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Old 11-04-2009, 10:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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When you are not happy you desire to gain something in order to become happy- “darkworker”. When you are happy you desire to give something in order to express you happiness- “lightworker”. Do you agree?
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No. A darkworker can be quite "happy" and pursue new ends just for the sake of doing it. Lightworkers do it for others, darkworkers do it because they can.

If you've ever taken on a huge challenge, succeeded, and then immediately looked for a bigger dragon to slay, you understand the mindset.

Dislike-or unhappiness-can be a powerful driving force to anyone in the right context. Polarity determines what you will do with it, not whether or not you'll feel it.
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Old 11-04-2009, 11:26 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Don't darkworkers do it for themselves instead of just because they can? When you are un/happy, you choose the next challenge based on what. How does your motivation to take a challenge change in either case?
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the dichotomy darkworker/lightworker is nothing but illusion
the terminology is only meant to point out different stages in your evolution if you consider the latter as linear which it is not

...of course the lowest stage being unpolarized



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Don't darkworkers do it for themselves instead of just because they can? When you are un/happy, you choose the next challenge based on what. How does your motivation to take a challenge change in either case?
If one has to be unhappy to accept a challenge, then lightworkers can never gain any power here and now. If they are fundamentally happy, they have nothing to strive for and therefore they won't do anything.

In conquering a challenge, I improve. I'm really glad I've improved. I savor it, and I want to do it again. I want to be better. The difference is that I seek to improve because I am fulfilled, because I see what I can become and I want more of that as opposed to doing it because I fear being bested or getting left in the dust.

Does that indicate dissatisfaction? Yes and no. If I'm happy with what I've accomplished but I want to do something more, it means I've fallen short of perfection and I'm not willing to call it good enough. But dissatisfaction isn't inherently a bad thing. It's part of any initiative to change. Lightworkers feel it, too. The fundamental question is do you use your power to push forward or do you turn it against yourself?

At the base level of existence, there's nothing to strive for. This is not the base level of existence. You can't deny the pleasure of progress without unplugging from this reality. That's fine, if it's what you want to do. But it's the antithesis of personal development. PD is about capitalizing on the opportunities this reality provides.
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Old 11-05-2009, 09:33 AM   #6 (permalink)
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If they are fundamentally happy, they have nothing to strive for and therefore they won't do anything.
Buddha was fundamentally happy, but he still achieved a lot If a person gets in a happy state and doesn't need progress to stay happy, would he still make progress? This time as a result instead of progress being a goal. Maybe lightworkers and darkworkers both strive for happiness, and once they reach that state they are no longer at the level of polarization?
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Buddha was fundamentally happy, but he still achieved a lot If a person gets in a happy state and doesn't need progress to stay happy, would he still make progress? This time as a result instead of progress being a goal. Maybe lightworkers and darkworkers both strive for happiness, and once they reach that state they are no longer at the level of polarization?
I should have touched on this earlier-happy is a terrible word for this. Happiness is fleeting. Anyone who pursues it will end up disappointed. The word you're looking for is peace, or inner calm, or self-control. Each of those is different but they're all aspects of a particular state.

Pay attention to what I'm arguing. I'm not saying someone can't accomplish anything if they're calm and centered, I was pointing to the logical end of your assumptions as I perceived them. If the difference between lightworkers and darkworkers is that one of them is always happy and the other is always at unrest, and that unrest is what drives progress, then the other side could never gain any significant power.

As I understand it, peace is not the same thing as enlightenment. I know this because peace comes fairly early upon committing to a path. The difference between the peace you know upon polarizing and the peace that comes at the end is that the latter is imperturbable. (One of the reasons I use peace over a word like happiness is because you can be at peace even when angry or sorrowful. The key is knowing you are not your emotions and that emotion will rise and fade entirely on its own as part of the natural processes of life.) Now, I can hardly claim to understand it fully, and I doubt anyone else can either. Truly enlightened people are rare and I doubt any of them spend their time on internet forums. I'd love to have a chat about it, but it's unspeakable-there aren't words for it.
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