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10-05-2009, 05:33 PM
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 |  Lightworkers in Positions of Power
The expression of personal power is an area where many lightworkers seem to lag behind, myself included. So, for my own inspiration and for the inspiration of other lightworkers out there I'd like to compile a list of lightworkers who hold powerful and influential positions. Off the top of my head Oprah Winfrey and Louise Hay come to mind. Anyone else? |
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10-05-2009, 10:36 PM
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Are we limiting this list to living persons? | |
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10-06-2009, 03:07 AM
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Do you think it's important to distinguish between those that came into their positions through being a lightworker? If so, I'm not sure I agree with listing Oprah. She changed her mission, I think, only after she was very successful. | |
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10-06-2009, 03:10 AM
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anyhoo, back on topic. Deepak Chopra Al Gore (though i admit he doesn't strike me as hardcore with the power stuff) Common (the MC) | |
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10-06-2009, 04:24 AM
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As a person who has seen the extermination camps, albeit years after the war and have in fact met many of the survivors of the final solution to the Jewish problem I would much rather that the people in power in Germany in that time frame not be the exclusive possessors of atomic weapons. If a person reads the letters and recorded thoughts of Einstein I believe most would agree he was a light worker. Personally I still vote for Einstein as a light worker. YMMV  | |
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10-06-2009, 05:27 AM
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I'm not sure Einstein would fit under the lighworker term. Not because of the A-Bomb, because being a lightworker is about how you intend to use your energy. Einstein just strikes me as someone who had a career in doing something he loved and had a lot of fun. Not necessarily someone devoted and able to change the world for the better. As for Ophra, it doesn't really matter how she was early on in her career. Steve himself was a thief and a criminal when he started out as an adult, but that doesn't make him any less of a lightworker nowadays. |
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10-06-2009, 10:28 AM
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I don't think you'll find many - to get anywhere in this world especially into a position of power you need to be ruthless cold underhanded and willing to do anything even stab your best friend in the back - these are not things that light workers are willing to do
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10-06-2009, 02:09 PM
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Even lightworkers go through shifts in consciousness, life crisis, changes and growth. Lightworkers are human and imperfect, too. My impression is that Oprah always was and still is a lightworker. Her work has simply become bigger and more spiritually oriented over the last several years, but it didn't appear out of thin air. Her good love-based deeds grew from a good, love-based seed planted long ago. Anyone think Obama is a lightworker? I believe my favorite soprano, Renee Fleming, is a lightworker. |
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10-06-2009, 05:54 PM
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What we've gathered so far ... very inspiring indeed! Except for one I do not know (Common) they all sound good to me. Oprah Winfrey Louise Hay Mother Teresa Clara Barton Albert Einstein??? Martin Luther King, Jr. Gandhi George Washington Deepak Chopra Al Gore Common (the MC) Barack Obama??? Nelson Mandela Elie Wiesel Albert Schweitzer |
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10-06-2009, 06:37 PM
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Oskar Schindler Helen Keller Florence Nightingale John D. Rockefeller IMO, Obama has all the qualities of a lightworker. It will depend on how he handles different issues and what he chooses to do later in his career. |
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10-06-2009, 06:48 PM
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10-06-2009, 07:22 PM
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I wouldn't include Al Gore as a lightworker...! Sure he may care about the environment, and he's willing to go around making movies about it, but he's isn't taking the steps in his own personal life to live with that belief. We should stay away from using modern politicans as an example of lightworkers too.
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10-06-2009, 09:28 PM
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10-06-2009, 09:40 PM
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I am against excluding a whole group of people from being considered as lightworkers because of their profession. Using the political system is how things get done in most civilized countries and frankly, because so many lightworkers are weak and afraid of doing anything powerful, many systems are suffering - not only the political. We need lightworkers willing to stand up and take charge everywhere especially in those areas where lightworkers are few and far between. At least IMHO, the lightworking world has much less need for another reiki healer than for more enlightened economic and political leaders willing to step up. And, anyone who thinks Obama isn't a SAINT compared to Bush is blind. This doesn't mean he is perfect, but he is a big good step in the right direction. |
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10-06-2009, 10:03 PM
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10-06-2009, 10:21 PM
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In any case, from my perspective Obama is a lightworker. Where Bush would have used force, Obama tries diplomacy. He tries to instill a sense of self-responsibility (albeit a bit helplessly at the moment) in Americans or to form a national healthcare system. One of my favs is that he and Michelle started a farmer's market in front of the White House ... these are all very noble and conscious ideas and acts. Blaming someone because they are not yet perfect is the best way to paralyze any progress at all. Lightworker, in my view, means doing one's best to walk a love based path. We do our best with the given circumstances. I indeed see a few instances where his decisions could have been more conscious or better but how do we know that he himself did not learn from his mistakes as we learn from ours? | |
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10-07-2009, 12:25 AM
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Michelle, I veto your inclusion of Obama as a lighworker group. If you insist on putting him into that category, I shall report you to the almighty lightworker supreme court that punishes all people who place people into categories that I disagree with. Seriously, you have a good point about Obama being lightworkish, but I wouldn't put him as being a full-blown lightworker. He is still willing to bomb Iran and sending more troops to Afghanistan and is also willing to bomb people in Pakistan using drones. He is much more love-centered than Bush was, but I don't think he is enough love-centered to qualify as a full blown lightworker. I could be wrong. |
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10-07-2009, 07:32 AM
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I actually like the idea of a "lightworkerish" category It feels better than banishing Obama to ranks of "unconscious pleb". Lightworkers Oprah Winfrey Louise Hay Mother Teresa Renee Fleming Clara Barton Martin Luther King, Jr. Gandhi George Washington Deepak Chopra Common (the MC) Nelson Mandela Elie Wiesel Albert Schweitzer Oskar Schindler Helen Keller Florence Nightingale Peter Gabriel Marianne Williamson Byron Katie Paul Newman Dalai Lama Lightworkers-ish Albert Einstein Barack Obama Al Gore Ralph Nader John D. Rockefeller |
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10-07-2009, 08:13 AM
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How about Abraham Lincoln and Jimmy Carter? My feeling is that there have to be many more in powerful positions than we are aware of. Perhaps they are simply not famous ... Who are the most powerful people in your professional field and do you consider them lightworkers? |
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But Abraham Lincoln? No way, please no. He's a darkworker to the core. Responsible for the most American killed ever - his armies killed more Americans then the Nazis, the Germans of WW1, the Japanese, the British (during the American Revolution and War of 1812), the Spaniards, the Mexicans, and the Vietnamese COMBINED. Quote:
Computer Industry: Steve Jobs, CEO of Apple Linux Trovald, founder of Linux. Mark Shuttlework, founder and financer of Ubuntu Private Space Industry: Peter Diamondis: Founder of the X-Prize that led to the first private spaceship launch Burt Rutan: Designer and creator of that spaceship as well as the next one following up. BTW, I met both Peter Diamondis and Burt Rutan, and they seem to be pretty driven by their love and passion of what they do and they do it in a love-centered non-darkish way. | ||
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