I want to express my femininity more!

[Andrew Gubb]

^OK for the moment I call her my girlfriend because I don't want to go into detail, but we're a bit on and off right now. We've been together for a few months and we don't know everything about each other's lives. I have told her a bit about what's going on in this thread, though.

Bottom line is wearing panties is kinky and I might enjoy it, but it isn't really what I was thinking of when I started this thread. Really I want to express myself more as I really am. Panties aren't that relevant.

I just imagined the scenario of us gettin' it on and right when things are about to get good, her seeing what I have under my trousers, with confusion and potential misunderstanding that needs to be cleared up, and starting a long conversation when I least want one...

[lifetimelearner]

what what did I walk into
panties ?
just kidding Andrew !!

[lifetimelearner]

there are different aspects to being male and female
Gender studies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

which aspect are you looking to include in your life ?

[Andrew Gubb]

^Hi LL, welcome... muahahaha!!!



I don't know, it's like a feeling, an energy. In general I'd like to act more from my inner truth and not censor myself out of fear of being thought of as gay, or whatever else.

[lifetimelearner]

to be honest I can understand where you are coming from ...

when I was younger I learned through a perverted neighbor what it meant to be a female

after that I wanted to be a guy
-not have the parts-
but have what you called 'the energy '

I wanted to exude the don't mess with me I am a guy attitude
and not be looked at as a piece of
-well to put it bluntly-
a piece of a--s


so yes there is an energy there !!

me I have tried to block mine

so I might not be any help to you

all I can say is let whatever is inside come out
I will love you for it !!!

[Andrew Gubb]

Long time since you posted it but thanks for that beautiful reply lifetimelearner **hug**

So, I came back to this thread and reread it.

rei, I did try out the long baths, with incense and enjoyed it a lot. Thank you

So, to continue the femininity adventure...

I broke up with my girlfriend a month or so back, which totally and utterly killed me. I spent a couple of weeks crying like only an indigo can cry, and then as I began to get over her, guess what - the Universe sent me a new lady, a very very high vibration person. On Christmas Eve, no less.

I give my heart very easily, so I still had to sort out my ex in my head, but I was very soon into this new girl. I've learnt a lot of lessons from my ex, and I see this one as the next step in my evolution. It looks to be like we're going to make each other very very happy

This lady has a masculine energy about her in the best of ways. I don't know if masculine is actually a good word, though, because it has connotations that I don't like. Maybe "active" is a good word. She's active. So far, we've almost always made love with her on top, and I love it, love it, love it. I can be vulnerable with her and she protects me in her embrace. I feel so loved.

Interestingly, as we're in different towns for now (will soon change) and we haven't yet talked about exclusivity yet - I know she's not the jealous type - I ended up having sex with another lady, this one a feminine one, and turning on my masculine side. When I talked to my lady love again on the phone, I noticed I had become more masculine as it took me a little while to get into the vibe again. Then I became all feminine again

I notice when I'm talking with her or after vibing with her I use the diminutive form more when speaking spanish - a more feminine way of speaking. For instance "mi casita" - "my little house"; "me siento calentito" - "I feel (small and) cozy" (sorry that's my best attempt at a translation of the feel of it).

I wonder how my speech would change if I spoke Japanese - I hear they have different words to give your speech a different "flavour", including masculine, feminine and in between energies.

I have the intuition that in general in my life I'm going to be expressing masculinity - I feel that my life purpose calls for it - but that right now, maybe during two or three years, I will be going through my feminine side deeply, enjoying it, getting over my blocks and judgements about it, and satisfying my need to do so. I think femininity is a better energy for self-healing, anyway, so that fits, as I have to have a more self-focused energy at this point in my life.

Right after breaking up with my ex, actually, I put up a classified ad for a gay indigo, and I think I found someone fitting the profile - a very high-consciousness guy, and he is bisexual - never done it with a man before. Excellent.

As my relationship is getting serious I don't know if I will end up doing anything with this guy, but I'll meet him anyway. Maybe later on I'll talk with my lady about whether I can do this, I have such a curiosity to try.


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I did try masturbating with a finger in my anus, imagining it was like a vagina, and that gave me a really massive pleasure. It's like I could completely forget I was supposed to be a man at that point, something which I think my soul longs for. I'm scared I might become one of those guys who try once and don't go back My next step in the adventure is to buy some dildos and lubricant and explore my femininity in private.

I have the feeling my lady might be a pegger though. Oh, how fun

[Andrew Gubb]

Update

Well I have done that... and as I expected my lady is a pegger! Haha Needless to say we have been having a LOT of fun.

Having asked her like the 10th time, "you do like this, right? When I'm soft and tender and vulnerable?" she said kindly, "no more masks, Andrew."

Funnily enough I find now that I am accepting more my feminine side I find it easier to express my masculine side fully, too. It's funny, .... I don't know if I should write this without asking her but, well, just this, she's sleeping........ we might start sex with me as the more masculine, dominant one and then end with me being all feminine. Or the other way around.

It helps that I don't THINK about being masculine, feminine or whatever. In real life the dynamic is very fluid. As soon as you're trying to be what you think you should be right now, you're blocking it. But the purpose is to express and enjoy our true selves, not our mental activity.

i'm so happy to be able to express myself exactly as I feel like with her. It was such hell in school when I wanted to be gentle, radiant and open and everyone attacked me because I was supposed to be a tough hardened man. I fought so much to express myself truly, but in the end the only things I could do were be a hermit or make defenses against people. Mostly, I became a hermit, and eventually went crazy out of loneliness and disgust.

With my lady, I can observe as I let my inner self out fully. It's funny how my body moves sometimes when I'm feeling feminine, like this lithe sensual revelling. I just lie on the bed and twist my body and squeal in a funny girly way. I know, I make myself laugh

It's fun Are you expressing yourself freely?

Love

Andrew

[rei]

Andrew, it sounds like you and your lady are both androgynous.

i see some similarities in my own relationship, my guy and i both take turns being dominant/masculine and submissive/feminine. but we're naturally stretching ourselves too, and naturally holding the space for the other to stretch. sometimes it feels odd to not fit the gender roles, but that happens when i pause to think about what others would say instead of just being myself. most of the time it's all very organic.

we both need to improve on our endurance i think, but we'll get there - and we both enjoy the practice along the way

glad you are with someone who is open to seeing you as your true self.

[KaleidoskopicVision]

Originally Posted by Andrew Gubb

I thought I'd write something to bump this thread, as it was generating some interesting discussion.

So I've decided that my next steps are to start really caring about my appearence! I've always been a bit lacking on that one, one of the aspects of myself which is definitely not feminine. Thing is, I do like to dress well and look good when I overcome my mental blocks and actually do it. Maybe it'll make me feel more feminine too

I tried going to a gay bar the other day but there wasn't much going on. I'm still not sure if I'm bisexual, it really confuses me...

I never thought I'd get the right opportunity to post this video,
YouTube - Electric Six - "Gay Bar" (Hi Res)

[KaleidoskopicVision]

For those people who are wondering why some people bother to label masculine/female energies is because they are like yin and yang. Extremely different at their fullest when opposing. I would describe feminine energy as more 'magnetic'and masculine energy as more 'charged' and 'electric'. They are ultimately the same of course, but are quite different from the perspective of duality. The masculine energy is more expressive and outwardly directed, while feminine energy is more impressive and draws energy inward.

So Andrew, to bring out your more feminine energy, try to carry a vibration of subtle magnetism. Appearance is more important as you are drawing energy and attention toward you, rather than directing it outward.

[Andrew Gubb]

Originally Posted by rei

Andrew, it sounds like you and your lady are both androgynous.

i see some similarities in my own relationship, my guy and i both take turns being dominant/masculine and submissive/feminine. but we're naturally stretching ourselves too, and naturally holding the space for the other to stretch. sometimes it feels odd to not fit the gender roles, but that happens when i pause to think about what others would say instead of just being myself. most of the time it's all very organic.

we both need to improve on our endurance i think, but we'll get there - and we both enjoy the practice along the way

Haha I can imagine It's cool to hear you're going through the same rei

glad you are with someone who is open to seeing you as your true self.

Thanks, the same I can say for you, good find!

Hugs

Andrew

[Andrew Gubb]

Originally Posted by KaleidoskopicVision

For those people who are wondering why some people bother to label masculine/female energies is because they are like yin and yang. Extremely different at their fullest when opposing. I would describe feminine energy as more 'magnetic'and masculine energy as more 'charged' and 'electric'. They are ultimately the same of course, but are quite different from the perspective of duality. The masculine energy is more expressive and outwardly directed, while feminine energy is more impressive and draws energy inward.

So Andrew, to bring out your more feminine energy, try to carry a vibration of subtle magnetism. Appearance is more important as you are drawing energy and attention toward you, rather than directing it outward.

Thanks KS, interesting

[Milena]

Well this was an adventure to read!

I guess I could add that I've always felt masculine, and for me that means dominant, aggressive and unemotional. But at the same time I experience the exact opposite feelings more rarely but more intensely.

Oh, and interestingly I've always felt more comfortable around men than women. Women make me so nervous... like they're judging me or like they could just snap! Not sure how this developed but it started ever since I can remember.

I've got this book in front of me with a section on "gender energy balance". Here are the lists of masculine and feminine characteristics:

Masculine Feminine
aggressive - passive
independent - interdependent
rational - emotional
objective - subjective
dominant - submissive
competitive - cooperative
logical - intuitive
adventurous - cautious
decisive - ambivalent
ambitious - security-oriented
worldly - domestic
leader - follower
assertive - tactful
analytical - integrative
strong - tender
sexual - sensual
philosophical - practical
thinking - feeling
math/science - arts/literature
self-reliant - consults others
individualistic - interpersonal
goal oriented - process oriented
exclusive - inclusive
instrumental - expressive
disciplinarian - nurturing
pleases self - pleases others
takes initiative - receptive
likes time alone - likes time with others
sees parts - sees whole
rebellious - conformist
theological - religious
separative - affiliative

The book is kinda dated but what do you think? Are these differences sort of inherent or completely constructed by society?

[Andrew Gubb]

Hi Milena,

I think these diferences are part inherent, part constructed.

An evolved soul looks for the right balance of these energies in their life - they're not tied down to what someone says their energy "should" be.

When we're in the realm of "should"s, if we're relating from the mind, we're not feeling energy. But I think most people have a pretty decent feel for what masculine and feminine is. At least, it's one of the most obvious energies out there.

Andrew

[rei]

Originally Posted by Milena

Well this was an adventure to read!

I guess I could add that I've always felt masculine, and for me that means dominant, aggressive and unemotional. But at the same time I experience the exact opposite feelings more rarely but more intensely.

Oh, and interestingly I've always felt more comfortable around men than women. Women make me so nervous... like they're judging me or like they could just snap! Not sure how this developed but it started ever since I can remember.

i have experience with this too. women didn't really make me nervous, but i felt more natural around guys. in some ways this has changed, or rather, i still feel more natural and 'at home' around guys, but i am much more open to interacting with women... as long as it's not a shopping marathon

and to potentially make it sound even more compex, i don't tend to gravitate toward incredibly/stereotypically masculine men. the guys i end up hanging out with aren't really feminine either, but they aren't usually gungho about football or 'woman's place is in the kitchen' stuff.

maybe i tend to be around other androgynous people, or maybe more conscious people are more fluid regarding gender roles... i am also comfortable around other girls who tend to hang out with mostly guys. some of them are motivated by sexual attention from men, and that doesn't create the same sense of kinship and commonality for me. but many of these girls who are usually more comfortable with guys aren't just hoping for male (sexual) attention. we sometimes joke about how we must be a different species with our own invisible markings because we can tell when we're around another girl who hangs with mostly guys.

i also find girls who naturally end up with more male friends are often described as:
laid back
easygoing
down to earth

(as well as more negative sounding labels, which are not based on a thorough understanding of motivation, temperament and gender).

as for that list of traits, i agree with Andrew it's likely a combination of nature and nurture.

[Milena]

Thanks Andrew, thanks Rei

Yep, that sounds like me. I prefer androgynous (slightly more masculine) people. Anyone who are too far to one side freaks me out a little! lol. I never realized that my subconscious was so... helpful

[Andrew Gubb]

Hi guys

Been talking a bit with KaleideskopicVision (sp??) and thought I'd post this bit I wrote, about my most recent experiences.

I'm coming to feel a lot more whole as I explore this stuff. Today I felt so feminine making love to my girlfriend. I had like this vision of being with my twin soul in a past life, where I was a girl and she was a boy. I think we're both more comfortable like that So I was just thinking of this old body I had and feeling it like inside me - feeling like a woman inside but a man outside, but without conflict, just comfortably expressing my femininity in a man's body, like a light that shines through my skin. I liked looking in the mirror after.

I think we all have masculinity and femininity in us. We just choose which energy to "play" with. Maybe we prefer one or the other, but we always have both.

Andrew

[newuserint]

I Guess this is my first post since like 18 months.
I remember posting here cause of feeling so depressed and because i felt it wasnt worth living anymore.

I have had homosexual atraction since i remember, but i always tried to refuse it, i dont know nothing about what Andrew said of others lifes but sometimes i feel more feminine than masculine, i know theres people who may think i'm gay but i actually like women, and what the past 18 months ive been thinking and exploring is the fact that i actually like men too.

Its not like i decided that, since always i remember masturbating about women fantasies but in the past 6 months i had men fantasies.

The past 3 or 4 months ive decided to accept the fact i have men atracttion too.

The issue i have now is weather i like more men than women.

I wouldnt really like to have sex with men, its a personal decision ive made.

So what i really would like is to be more masculine.

Sometimes i think that i have a female soul in male body.

I'm a "pretty boy" and i know it, so that makes me think im more into men than women.

In the issue of realtionships i have always have more men friends than women but actually i am a not very social person.

I guess its part of the same.

What i want in life is to achieve my career goals, have a family with a girl, i wouldnt like to have a homosexual life, even knowing i have homosexual atraction.

Also other thing that may dont have nothing to do with, but i think my father is homosexual and i think most of his problems have to do with it. He spends most of his time in playing and singing Catholic songs.

What are the chances of being son(biological) of a gay father to be also gay.

[newuserint]

Just to complete a little my situation, im in a weird relationship with a girl who may fit into the model of lesbian easyly, i think she's a male soul in female body.

It's weird.
Anyway she loves me so much and so do i, and it's been complicated since our characters are that way.

But our love may be pure. And we may be twin souls, as someone already said in this thread.

Any thoughts?

[rei]

Originally Posted by newuserint

Just to complete a little my situation, im in a weird relationship with a girl who may fit into the model of lesbian easyly, i think she's a male soul in female body.

It's weird.
Anyway she loves me so much and so do i, and it's been complicated since our characters are that way.

But our love may be pure. And we may be twin souls, as someone already said in this thread.

Any thoughts?

i may be able to relate to where you are coming from. i tend to express more masculinity than most girls, and my relationships have not been with macho guys. for a while i struggled with the sexuality issue, thought at one point i might be more gay than straight. adding to the confusion was that theory that bisexuality isn't a real preference, that it is like a 'pit stop' on the way to being homosexual. i think that is an inaccurate theory, but it did add to my confusion. (i even started a thread here a while back about this.)

haven't discussed sexuality with my boyfriend, but i can tell he went through the same thing himself. and, one time we were talking about this sort of thing and he even said something along the lines of thinking our brains are wired to see attraction in both sexes. but we're both very attracted to each other, and are probably twin souls. i don't want to use "probably" there, because i'm also confident it is not just probably. i guess i'm trying to maintain a bit of practicality, even though it's silly to do that in matters of the heart ^_^

my understanding is that he and i are both androgynous. and also perfect mirrors for each other, i'm more in touch with masculinity than most girls and he's more in touch with femininity than most guys. i even said this to him last night, he wasn't at all offended. so i think it may be mostly about finding someone who 'fits' your combination of masculine/feminine that you're also attracted to.

there is nothing wrong with being gay or bisexual. there is nothing wrong with being androgynous either, but i have noticed a lot of people aren't very comfortable with androgyny (even if many people also find it attractive) because it makes it harder to put that person in a clear-cut category. (edit: granted, a lot of people aren't comfortable with homosexuality or bisexuality either, but often for different reasons.) i've had people accuse me of being a closeted lesbian. at one point i thought they might be right, now i know that isn't the case - because i've ended up with my perfect compliment.

sounds like you are also with someone who compliments you well. and if you can let go of the gender roles - of who is 'supposed to' do what - and just make up your own roles based on who is more interested in or well-suited to doing what - then it sounds like you are in a good situation.

if you are attracted to both sexes, but don't see yourself in a relationship with a member of the same sex, i think there is a good chance you are androgynous - because that is exactly how i talk in terms of my own preferences. i find women beautiful and sexually appealing but don't want a relationship with a woman. i see myself with a man. since i have finally come to understand this is one side effect of androgyny, i figure i could share it in case it would help.

[newuserint]

Thanks for your reply REI, i think i maybe adnrogynous as you said, i suffer from clinical depression since 12(21 now), and sometime ago(like 15 months) a therapist asked me if i was gay, at that point i knew of the very posibility of being gay, but all my puberty i refused the posibility of being gay, cause i formed an ideology of wanting to be with a woman since being a kid. Also at that age i had a sexual preference crisis.

Well since that therapy my thoughts are all about being or not gay, its like a ocd(obsessive compulsive disorder) which i think i have always had(other times been with something else) despite my sexual preferences.

That makes it harder for me.

Sometimes i tend to think im more to men than women, and that scare me the hell out of me.

Anyway if i discover im more into men than women, i would try to overcome that since i have women attraction and im free to choose my destiny.

I read that hormones(to be more masculine) just make it harder. Also that religion doesnt work.
But there may be a way.

[Angelique]

I'm glad I read this thread. I've always felt kind of masculine. When I was a kid, I got teased by girls but I never fought them because I had this rule that "you don't hit girls." Don't know why I thought that way. Thought I was bi when I was younger, but no. I didn't enjoy being physical with women.

@Milena. I'm with you on the woman thing. They make me kind of nervous sometimes. Definitely love being around guys more but I've had great friends that were girls. It's no surprise that I get along better with girls that are masculine though.

But even though I feel that way, I am very emotional. VERY. I cry way too easily especially if see/hear/think of someone in intense pain/joy. It get's on my nerves actually because I hate crying in front of other people, but I can't help it. One of the main reasons I avoid the news completely. Too draining.


Thank you everyone for your posts on this topic.

[Andrew Gubb]

Hi there!

I'm writing this now in a cafe in Bilbao, wearing a lovely pair of white panties I just bought

I just felt like saying how far I've advanced since I started this thread. I'm so content with my progress. It's all been about growing into my own skin, which in a wider sense I've been doing all this last year... well for years even. It feels good to finally get a bit comfortable just being me. We can always grow a little deeper into ourselves of course and I'm so happy to contemplate the greater and greater realms of pure joy I can explore in the long life I have before me

Just trying to express from the heart here. I took a week-long break to find my writing authenticity a bit more before coming back to writing online. I want to be a bit more myself online, too. It's so easy to get ungrounded and be someone else when you're on the web and it feels like it almost doesn't matter what you write because most people will never get to know you.

Did I ever mention I love authenticity? An indigo thing, that. Though maybe it's my special thing, too. I love being authentic and I love growing into greater authenticity.

So I bought some lovely white panties today The last couple of days I've been wearing some panties from my girlfriend, and it felt really good even though they were too small! So today I went and found some white, frilled organic cotton underwear "for my girlfriend" and just put them on in the café toilet just now.

I love it! I can't say why but it just feels right. There's something about panties which express the feminine energy perfectly: soft, delicate, and expressive rather than utilitarian. Comparing it to my ordinary boxers they feel so different: the boxers are straight, simple, and no-frills (double meaning there). I don't like that, it feels so cold to me.

It's a small thing but I just feel so much more me. My girlfriend took some photos of me in her panties before because she found my super-pleased expression funny I'm actually considering putting it up on facebook because like a good indigo, I just hate not expressing who I am. That way I'll lose the last of the friends I don't need.

Love you

Andrew

[Andrew Gubb]

I told my lady that I liked the frills and the little bow on the panties and she said that she often cuts off the little bow from hers I thought that was a funny thing to underline our differences.

[ChrisG]

I find that panties are a great way to express/indulge in one's femininity.

What I like to do is dress up in women's clothing, however I'm still at a bit of a beginner's stage with this because I still live with my mom and I don't want her to find out because I'll be judged very harshly.

I've always wanted to be more masculine because that would make me more attractive to the opposite sex. What that means for me is be more fearless and assertive, especially in social situations. That would make me happier with being who I am.

I'd be afraid to express my feminine side socially because I'd worry people would think I was gay, or ridiculous, or women wouldn't be attracted to me.

So as you see, I'm in a bit of a contradiction. I think it's deviant or bad for me as a guy to express my feminine side, but it's still something I want to do and I think would be a great thing for anyone to do. It would help us to accept ourselves more for who we are- because after all, that is who we are, this mix of masculine and feminine! Men should feel comfortable with expressing their girly side, women their manly side.

[ChrisG]

Another thing: Might this thing where men want to express/indulge in their femininity more be a way of dealing with fear of being intimate with women?

[Andrew Gubb]

Originally Posted by ChrisG

Another thing: Might this thing where men want to express/indulge in their femininity more be a way of dealing with fear of being intimate with women?

I don't think so, I enjoy quite a lot of intimacy with women and I'm not scared of it

[Andrew Gubb]

Originally Posted by ChrisG

I find that panties are a great way to express/indulge in one's femininity.

What I like to do is dress up in women's clothing, however I'm still at a bit of a beginner's stage with this because I still live with my mom and I don't want her to find out because I'll be judged very harshly.

I've always wanted to be more masculine because that would make me more attractive to the opposite sex. What that means for me is be more fearless and assertive, especially in social situations. That would make me happier with being who I am.

Are you sure? Masculinity is attractive to some women but for other women femininity is what turns you on. I think what will both attract women - some women, but you can never attract them all - and make you happier would be for you to find out what you want to be and express, and just be that.

I'd be afraid to express my feminine side socially because I'd worry people would think I was gay, or ridiculous, or women wouldn't be attracted to me.

Yeah, society sucks. Choose your friends well because most people ARE judgemental. I mean the big "mass" of TV-brainwashed, schooled, football-distracted wage-slaves who look to each other for what to think. These people tend not to like authenticity. You need to find a safer group to be able to be what you really want to be, though of course you'll also want to get over your internal fears

So as you see, I'm in a bit of a contradiction. I think it's deviant or bad for me as a guy to express my feminine side, but it's still something I want to do and I think would be a great thing for anyone to do. It would help us to accept ourselves more for who we are- because after all, that is who we are, this mix of masculine and feminine! Men should feel comfortable with expressing their girly side, women their manly side.

Yeah, a conflict between social conditioning and what you really feel / want to be. Find a place where you can be accepted as you are, demand acceptance as you are, and accept yourself as you are first of all.

Love

[Eric L]

In all truth and honesty, you speak and act out on love so much that this concept of seeing yourself as a woman makes sense to me now.

This is an interpretation, though, fact is-> you are a man. The variables of your own life steered you, partly, through many trials of dysfunctionality with the help of love. Through these events you conditioned your use and need of love greatly thus becoming endowed with the interpretation you have for yourself now.

Very nice...very nice indeed.

I don't think so, I enjoy quite a lot of intimacy with women and I'm not scared of it

****. This man managed to get himself the best of both worlds with his interpretations. wow....

In all truth and honesty, for me, I have no trouble being a man filled with love, but, to start discussing about panties, for me, well, that just doesn't work


Andrew, all you gotta do to be more feminine, I am sure other women will agree with this, is to exploit (in a good sense) love in everything you do. Get a woman, kiss her, touch her, make love to her and put love and passion into every god damn moment, touch, word and action and you will be in both worlds, perfectly. You will be a man with the love and passion of a woman.

How I know this ****? I have read very good books on woman and how they behave, also, watch lesbian porn, you will see just how much two women seem to be so much in love with each other because of the way they are with each other. This is why, IMO, lesbians are more common than gays (not intending any disrespect to anyone with this) woman, being so filled with love, understand how other woman can make them feel. Also, I know and am confident in what I say with regard with women. And no, don't be thinking I have ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of experience with them, I'm still young (kinda), just that not once have I gotten a women to tell me what I say about them is wrong. Women are love, in the flesh. This is why, to us men, watching two women make out is like, the best thing in the world, seriously. There is nothing more beautiful than this, the men on this forum will agree with me, I am confident in this

Guys will think you are gay, and I know you won't give a **** about it because, well, woman will melt for you and you will get the last laugh - clearly you will have the body to get them satisfied physically (and damned well too) and the emotional concept of love and passion of a women to make them feel like goddesses in ecstasy in their emotions. Like I said, the best of both worlds...the physical and the emotional.

Is there a woman with the guts to tell me I'm wrong?

Andrew, keep it up man, you got this **** down nicely.

[blossom]

No, but I will say this...Why aren't you asleep in bed L?
Don't make me say it...