Laws & rules

[spirit4711]

Originally Posted by ellie

Pffttt...That's your rule, but if we played by the same rule we would be boring.

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It's not my rule, it's the law in many countries. Interesting how many people in this thread choose to overlook that.

[ellie]

Originally Posted by spirit4711

It's not my rule, it's the law in many countries. Interesting how many people in this thread choose to overlook that.

Well I am all for breaking rules

[spirit4711]

Originally Posted by ellie

Well I am all for breaking rules

Send me PM and I'll visit you in prison.

[Daffy Duck]

Originally Posted by spirit4711

It's not my rule, it's the law in many countries. Interesting how many people in this thread choose to overlook that.

I choose to overlook the speed limit laws when driving too. Everyone breaks that one though, so it's "okay".

Most laws I can more or less agree with, but the ones that I don't I just ignore. Technically, running away from home is considered illegal, but when my ex-girlfriend was in an abusive home and nobody in authority wanted to help, she picked the choice that was best for her and got away.

[spirit4711]

Originally Posted by Daffy Duck

I choose to overlook the speed limit laws when driving too. Everyone breaks that one though, so it's "okay".

That kind of thinking is OK for kindergarten, but you're supposed to grow over that .

Most laws I can more or less agree with, but the ones that I don't I just ignore.

You can do so until a big hairy cop (M/F) drags your ass to court .

Technically, running away from home is considered illegal, but when my ex-girlfriend was in an abusive home and nobody wanted to help, she picked the choice that was best for her and got away.

Running away illegal? I have to look up if that is so in our country, never heard of it. Is it a law that is enforced? If so, I assume that running away from abusive situations is not punished?

[Daffy Duck]

Originally Posted by spirit4711

That kind of thinking is OK for kindergarten, but you're supposed to grow over that .

Kindergartners do what they're told.

Growth, to me, is doing what I know I want or should do, whether or not other people (or laws) agree with it.

Do you always obey the speed limit, Spirit?

You can do so until a big hairy cop (M/F) drags your ass to court .

Nobody ever catches Daffy.

If so, I assume that running away from abusive situations is not punished?

If they find you, they may put you back into the abusive home. If they actually believe you are abused, then they will take you out of the abusive home and group you up with other kids from abusive homes, which in reality isn't always much better, but sometimes it is.

A sad reality is that many children are abused, and when they tell adults about it and ask for help, many of them are ignored.

[spirit4711]

Originally Posted by Daffy Duck

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Do you always obey the speed limit, Spirit?

Always. But my right foot has a will of it's own . It thinks it knows better than me.

Nobody ever catches Daffy.

Many convicts thought the same thing. I can visit you and Ellie on the same day, if the prisons are not too far apart.

[spirit4711]

Originally Posted by Daffy Duck

Kindergartners do what they're told.

You don't have kids I think?

[ellie]

Originally Posted by spirit4711

Are you sure it wont be me visiting you in prison?

I didn't mean that in a literal sense, I meant me visiting you in the prison of your mind

[Daffy Duck]

Originally Posted by spirit4711

Many convicts thought the same thing. I can visit you and Ellie on the same day, if the prisons are not too far apart.

I doubt I will spend any time in prison for going over the speed limit or any of the other laws I ignore.

It's much better than the prison of letting other people run my life because I'm too afraid of breaking any laws.

Originally Posted by spirit4711

You don't have kids I think?

Children are easily controlled compared to adults, in my opinion. Many of my friends are teachers and I've spent a good amount of time working with kids.

Originally Posted by ellie

I listened to a talk by Seth Godin the other day and he was talking about the ones that make a difference, that really succeed in life, that make a substantial impact in life are the ones that don't follow the rules, they break rules and make their own rules that they never follow what society aspects of them.

Yep. Common sense, isn't it?

[spirit4711]

Originally Posted by ellie

Are you sure it wont be me visiting you in prison?

Not sure, but if you're breaking laws like you're breaking rules I'm willing to bet on it .

I listened to a talk by Seth Godin the other day and he was talking about the ones that make a difference, that really succeed in life, that make a substantial impact in life are the ones that don't follow the rules, they break rules and make their own rules that they never follow what society aspects of them.

I like that way of thinking.

Me too. The thing of course is not only breaking the rules, but also getting away with it by the results you create. I forgot the title of the book, but in it the 11th Commandment was described. A father warns his kid to determine his own rules for life and not blindly follow society's rules, but in society's eyes be compliant with it's rules. And if one needs to break society's rules, follow the 11th commandment: don't get caught.

Very wise advise I think.

[marinik]

This has turned out to be a discussion about rules and law? How does that help Sunmaid??? We all have a position on what she did. But what she should do or not do is the question at hand. Or am I going nuts from all of this and I and ALG are the only ones with a law degree here as far as I know.

[Daffy Duck]

Good point, Marinik. Now we have our own thread.

What is your point about you and ALG having a law degree? We don't need a degree to discuss laws and rules.

Just so everyone knows, this is a continuation of some posts from another topic.

[spirit4711]

Originally Posted by Daffy Duck

I doubt I will spend any time in prison for going over the speed limit or any of the other laws I ignore.

A scene for two. Actors: PO (Police Officer) and DD (Daffy).

PO: sir, are you aware that you were speeding here?
DD: actually, no, PO.
PO: mmm, you must be under the influence then. Get out of the car, you're under arrest.
DD: Hey!
PO: Resisting arrest? That's a serious offense. The judge won't be pleased with you.
DD: Ridiculous! You must be out of your mind!
PO: Obviously you're not aware of the new law that verbal assaulting a PO is equal to assault & battery? You're looking at 5 to 10 in a maximum secured facility now.
DD: But, but, ...

(PO locks up DD. DD stares sadly outside a small window and remembers the wise words of a distant spirit, not so long ago...)

[marinik]

Originally Posted by Daffy Duck

Good point, Marinik. Now we have our own thread.

What is your point about you and ALG having a law degree? We don't need a degree to discuss laws and rules.

That was a joke and a provocation for you to stop debating this topic on that thread. And by the way Spirit has stated so many times that the snooping was against the law and it isn't. There has been no damages, the father has not sued her it would have been a private "claim"... so no crime. At least for now. And it is not like it is inadmissible evidence Sunmaid was going to use in court!

PS: I do not know the professional law language in English so the terminology is a bit of so do not take it literally please! You all know what I mean at least from movies.

[Daffy Duck]

Spirit, I enjoyed your example. But in real life, the PO would be a female, and she would have fell for my alarming charm and asked me for my phone number. If I didn't give it to her, she would have looked up my number in her police system and followed me home. Handcuffs would probably end up being used and... well, let's not talk about the rest.

Originally Posted by marinik

That was a joke and a provocation for you to stop debating this topic on that thread.

It worked! You successfully manipulated me.

Side-note: I currently have a feeling someone, somewhere, is talking about me. They need something better to talk about. I'm going to send out thoughts of cotton candy to them.

[marinik]

Originally Posted by Daffy Duck

Handcuffs would probably end up being used and... well, let's not talk about the rest.


It worked! You successfully manipulated me.

We will use our imagination - the handcuffs and the rest

Me manipulate??? Never

[spirit4711]

Originally Posted by marinik

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And by the way Spirit has stated so many times that the snooping was against the law and it isn't.
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if I recalled correctly I said there were privacy laws. Apart from that I would think you can't touch others' personal stuff (diaries, email etc) without their permission. Maybe it's not an enforceable law. That was not the main point of my argument.

There has been no damages, the father has not sued her it would have been a private "claim"... so no crime. At least for now. And it is not like it is inadmissible evidence Sunmaid was going to use in court!

I think the damage is twofold. Sunmaid betrays her father's trust, and lowers her own integrity. Doesn't matter that the father is not trustworthy himself.

That the father hasn't taken legal action is irrelevant.

[spirit4711]

Originally Posted by Daffy Duck

Spirit, I enjoyed your example. But in real life, the PO would be a female, and she would have fell for my alarming charm and asked me for my phone number. If I didn't give it to her, she would have looked up my number in her police system and followed me home. Handcuffs would probably end up being used and... well, let's not talk about the rest.

And I thought you had a girlfriend? Did you change some values here?

It worked! You successfully manipulated me.

Side-note: I currently have a feeling someone, somewhere, is talking about me. They need something better to talk about. I'm going to send out thoughts of cotton candy to them.

Must be a bad conscience .

[Daffy Duck]

Originally Posted by spirit4711

Did you change some values here?

No, of course not. I didn't tell you the rest of the story.

I will now.

If I didn't give it to her, she would have looked up my number in her police system and followed me home. Handcuffs would probably end up being used and... I would unlock them, and gently suggest a cup of tea. After the water boils, I'd pour us both a cup, and we'd sit on the couch and discuss how she decided to become a PO. I'd suggest a friendly computer game of Jeopardy and we would play a few rounds. I win overall, but she was very strong in the "Rhymes with Yellow" category. It's around 9pm now, and I wish her a safe drive home, and never see her again.

P.S. An effective way of turning a girl off is to suggest a game of Jeopardy.

[jamesbiz]

It's a good thing we have jury nullification

[spirit4711]

Originally Posted by Daffy Duck

No, of course not. I didn't tell you the rest of the story.

I will now.

If I didn't give it to her, she would have looked up my number in her police system and followed me home. Handcuffs would probably end up being used and... I would unlock them, and gently suggest a cup of tea. After the water boils, I'd pour us both a cup, and we'd sit on the couch and discuss how she decided to become a PO. I'd suggest a friendly computer game of Jeopardy and we would play a few rounds. I win overall, but she was very strong in the "Rhymes with Yellow" category. It's around 9pm now, and I wish her a safe drive home, and never see her again.

P.S. An effective way of turning a girl off is to suggest a game of Jeopardy.

You're really living in fantasy land here . Might be a sound strategy fi you're doing 5 to 10 .

Yellow? Mellow, fellow, ... any more?

[Daffy Duck]

Originally Posted by spirit4711

Yellow? Mellow, fellow, ... any more?

She would have beat you too.

2 syllables:
bello, bellow, belo, cello, celo, delo, fellow, jello, kellow, mello, mellow, melo, pellow, quello, stello, strehlow, strelow, tello, velo

3 syllables:
agnello, aiello, anello, angello, arguello, augello, barcelo, bilello, bonello, borello, borrello, botelho, botello, buentello, cabello, caldrello, canelo, capello, cappello, cardello, carello, carmelo, castello, castelo, chipello, coelho, coello, colello, condello, corbello, corsello, costello, covello, crivello, cuello, curbelo, deangelo, debello, demello, demelo, dibello, dicello, dilello, gamello, jagiello, lobello, lorello, maiello, marcello, marcelo, martello, modelo, mondello, mongiello, montello, morello, novello, otello, othello, pirrello, pisello, porcello, ravelo, rebello, rebelo, revello, robello, robelo, rosello, scarpello, servello, sorbello, sotello, sotelo, spinello, stangelo, tirello, torello, trapelo, vitello

4 syllables:
azzarello, botshabelo, cappiello, carabello, carangelo, caravello, cariello, chiarello, ciccarello, ciriello, civitello, colangelo, coviello, daniello, darcangelo, diangelo, fariello, filippello, fiorello, fratangelo, funicello, iannello, manganello, marinello, masiello, mastrangelo, mauriello, militello, montebello, monticello, muscarello, nardiello, parrinello, pasquarello, perriello, pietrangelo, pirandello, piscitello, riviello, romanello, ruggirello, santangelo, tamburello, tomasello, torsiello, tortorello, tuminello, tumminello, vitiello, zamarello

5 syllables:
abbatiello, cartusciello, giovanniello, ianniello, manganiello, minichiello, pasquariello, picariello, romaniello, santaniello, tortoriello

[ssandra]

Originally Posted by Daffy Duck

No, of course not. I didn't tell you the rest of the story.

I will now.

If I didn't give it to her, she would have looked up my number in her police system and followed me home. Handcuffs would probably end up being used and... I would unlock them, and gently suggest a cup of tea. After the water boils, I'd pour us both a cup, and we'd sit on the couch and discuss how she decided to become a PO. I'd suggest a friendly computer game of Jeopardy and we would play a few rounds. I win overall, but she was very strong in the "Rhymes with Yellow" category. It's around 9pm now, and I wish her a safe drive home, and never see her again.

P.S. An effective way of turning a girl off is to suggest a game of Jeopardy.

wow... and here i was thinking that she would come over.. your girlfriend would be there... would use the handcuffs... and well.. you wouldn´t be watching the TV that night... but maybe that is just me and i should get my head out of the gutter...


a dirty mind is a joy forever!