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Old 08-11-2009, 01:51 AM   #31 (permalink)
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i don't believe scientologists do either, jamesbiz

i have truly enjoyed the volley of conversation.....but it is past my bedtime...good night all
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Old 08-11-2009, 01:59 AM   #32 (permalink)
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i don't believe scientologists do either, jamesbiz

i have truly enjoyed the volley of conversation.....but it is past my bedtime...good night all
well lol I don't believe in aliens either so :-P. good night
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Old 08-11-2009, 03:31 AM   #33 (permalink)
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It could be said that denying god exists is like denying air exists...

Isn't love and fear the same thing?
Hint: this is a koan.
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Old 08-11-2009, 03:38 AM   #34 (permalink)
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It could be said that denying god exists is like denying air exists...

Isn't love and fear the same thing?
Hint: this is a koan.
No, it can't be said, and love and fear are not the same thing. Love is always there, and fear just a human mind created emotion. I can go into detail, but I'm going to sleep as well.

PS. While just like air, a god can not be seen, air CAN be studied, discovered, examined, analyzed, and even seen with instruments.

Your question does not sound like a koan to me what's so ever, as I know the difference between love and fear.
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Old 08-12-2009, 08:09 AM   #35 (permalink)
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To follow by fear leads to suffocation

To follow by love commonly leads us to happines...
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Old 08-12-2009, 08:31 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Default Why we Follow GOD: Is it because we love him? Or we fear him?

We follow God Because we love him .He is our creator and our benefactor so we love him for what he is doing in our lives.
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Old 08-13-2009, 07:26 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Of course there is . Truth, and lies. One lie is the same as a million. There can not be more then one true story, period. One story is true, and all the others are a lie. But, who has the true story? You? Them? Sure as hell not I. So then why does everyone go around like they know the absolute empirical truth?
Actually, I meant that in the sense that there are always more than two ways to interpret a thing, or a story. Obviously, there are only two characteristics of any story - its truth or its falsity. But there as many ways of interpreting it as there are people.

Having said that, I hasten to add that I do not espouse moral relativism. There is a right way and a wrong way for everything.
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Old 08-13-2009, 02:12 PM   #38 (permalink)
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To follow is to stay behind, don't you think there is no need to follow something that we are part of? how could something that is part of us be feared?
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Old 08-13-2009, 05:19 PM   #39 (permalink)
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when I followed a "God" i did it out of being forced. I was raised in a roman catholic church and had to go to mass 3-4 times a week for like 14 years. i was always soooooooooo bored their. i always listened to what they had to say but never really took it seriously. i always thought most of it was symbolic and or complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. i mean, whos stupid enough to believe the priest is actually turning bread and wine into Christs' flesh and blood?

lol...

anyway...now adays I follow my own intuition and sensibility. working out much better!
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Old 08-15-2009, 07:22 PM   #40 (permalink)
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that is why I am the black sheep
I was raised catholic and refuse to follow that religion !
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Of course there is . Truth, and lies. One lie is the same as a million. There can not be more then one true story, period.
Actually there can.
Proving it was one of the archievment of logics in the last century.
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Actually there can.
Proving it was one of the archievment of logics in the last century.
How's that? Truth is truth. Just because we conceptualize it or "discover" something new, doesn't change the truth. It just changes what we know of the truth. Our knowledge has NOTHING to do with the truth. The only stories people have or those that they made up with their limited knowledge, there for NOTHING that people say about truth can ever be truth, as it will always be lacking in the unlimited knowledge required to come to the truth. If knowledge can even get us to truth in the first place
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Old 08-17-2009, 05:03 PM   #43 (permalink)
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I think many people here lie, "I love him because he is our creator bla bla..." is this what you truly feel in your heart, or is this what you want to keep repeating yourself.

Because it seems logical that if you do not fear Him, you would not concern yourself with things that he does or say. Would you not simply ignore him if you diddn't fear Him?

And another thing, how can you love the vicarious?
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Why we Follow GOD: Is it because we love him? Or we fear him?
I love him because he keeps me warm during the Summer months. I fear him because if he goes Supernova, we all die. I need not follow him because although he leaves my sight near the end of each day, he comes around again the next morning. And besides, his angels fill the void at night.
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Why we Follow GOD: Is it because we love him? Or we fear him?
I thought it was obvious. Ishmael anyone?
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I think one of the greatest limiting beliefs common to many human beings is there is that "there are two sides to every story".

In most situations, there are many more than two sides.
THIS.

In most cases there are as many sides as there are participants, and frequently those participants have additional multiple sides of their own.
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