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His too early death affect us all, but can we learn something from good and bad things, he has done in his life? And what was the main reason for his decline in last ten or so years. 5 Things We Can Learn from Michael Jackson's Life Article |
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i think his demise is a reflection of some people that burn so brightly and essentially never really have a normal life, try as they might...i don't believe he ever molested any children...he was very childlike trying to have a childhood he never had...they are just not long for this world, regardless of what causes them to get used up....he had enablers. problems with rx meds...he just wore out....i don't really think there is a lesson...just an observation of what over the top talent and celebrity can do to people...
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yes and it is all about the inevitable separation of the person from the public persona.....we don't know a lot about what their private lives are really like and who they are...though i think some of the newer younger celebs coming up allow us to see everything and then scream they have no privacy...
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He did everything is his power to try and make the world a better place and changed the lives of millions for the better. He was a very kind and gentle man yet we tortured and tormented him. I think it demonstates the sheer narrow mindedness and lack of intelligence and respect in society. The majority of us are just slaves to the media. So sad |
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Well, it's a matter of level of affectedness. For sure, we didn't know him as a private person, but still, he did have co-created a picture of media-made reality we live in. It did affect almost anybody, because MJ is a global brand. Theoretically, bankruptcy of Coca Cola would also affect most of us, because of global presence of the trademark.
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The Michael Jackson people are mourning, who was such a brilliant, inspired, groundbreaking performer? He died a long time ago. The Michael Jackson who died a couple of days ago was a sad, wasted wreck--he was a shadow of his former self. He'd gone from being a thing of wonder to the most tawdry, degraded freak show. And you can blame the press and the public, or claim that the world was not good enough for the likes of Michael Jackson, but Jackson took an active role in his own undoing. He threw himself into it headfirst. Jackson was brilliant--at one time. And yes, the possibility always existed that he could rise up and be brilliant again. But in order to do that? He would have had to undergo a profound internal change. He would have had to tear down all the ego structures he'd built around himself, kick out all the sycophants and yes-men, overcome his addictions, and admit he'd gone off the rails. Given the enormity of that task, it's no surprise he didn't. Had he done it, it would have been the most astonishing, superhuman feat of his entire life. I was sad to hear he'd died, but not surprised. And to be honest, I can't get too torn up about it--I think death for him, at this point, was a mercy, an end to enormous suffering.
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@MagicalRealist: You are right, the man who died some day ago isn't a great artist and performer he once was and die now is for him probably more merciful as living for another 20 years. He made some very bad decisions and also many good things in his life and I still think we can learn a lot from them (way too many plastic surgeries, speaking untruthful to his audience, following the dreams and trying to make world a better place).
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Everyone with their harsh judgements is incorrect and not even close to being valid. The fact that people think they know anything and consider what they do know as truth is ridiculous. Stop being brainwashed. What everyone should learn: Live a Passionate, Meaningful life despite any obstacles.
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Michael's death reminds me of two very important things: 1. Life is too short. We all will die at some point. While we think Michael death is tragic and unexpected....God knew. I have to remember that I do not have all the time in the world to do everything that I want to do. I need to make the most of the time I have. 2. Everyone has problems and challenges in life. Many people associate fame and money as success. But there are so many ways success is defined.....contentment, an enriching life, etc....... Kim Self Improvement and Motivation Kim (fuelmotivation) on Twitter |
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| I think it does effect me,since he was such a kind,caring individual. Truly a great loss to humanity, no matter what "negative" press Michael has gotten, I will always remember him as being a truly "exceptional" human being.
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from what i heard today the ceremony around michael's death had a circus like quality and all the people who claimed to know the depth of this man's soul were nowhere to be found. (i heard that brooke shields "didn't get the email" and was prepared with a euology and was genuinely choked up. it has been suspected that the whole thing was a plan by the jackson family and supporters to bring in money. you've got he biological mother of two of his kids cussing out and threatening reporters. the children were paraded as tho' it was a telethon. there are local writers who wonder why plastic surgeons, and other doctors preyed on someone who was obviously mentally ill when they all should have stopped at some point. all the thousands of so called friends and family who watched this tortured man sink into his delusional hole with no offer of true professional help. i am saddened for the loss of a talented, but mentally ill human being who was grossly taken advantage of by his entourage, hangers on, doctors, peers who professed to love him but enabled him, people who depended on him for financial support. the world is looking but are they really seeing. |
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What I learned about michael jackson's life: 1) If you are making your living on your name and face, you get zero privacy 2) Money can't buy happiness, but you can rent it 3) If you have millions, the laws don't apply to you 4) If you are rich, don't bother with "illegal drugs". You can get whatever prescriptions you want, whenever you want them. |
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| And I CAN say that it has affected me terribly; if it weren't for my own three offspring, I probably would've offed myself...for as long as I can remember, ALL I'VE WANTED OUT OF LIFE was to meet Michael. For that goal, I tried so hard to become rich and/or famous and/or successful. Now, he's gone and I have no interest in any of those things anymore and now I'm lost; I have no idea what I'm even living for now...'scuse me, make that "existing", for now, as I'm just empty inside and don't even feel I have the strength to create new goals and dreams. One thing I do plan to do is get a nose job and turn my body into a canvas in dedication to MJ. I already have three tattoos, so now I'm gonna cover myself in sequined glove tattoos, among other MJ-related ones. Beyond that, I just don't know what to do w/myself. And it's going to be even worse in 2 years when my nest is empty. *sigh* And that's actually what brought me here; I was seeking Metaphysical information because if I can learn to have lucid dreams and/or astral project, I can spend all my free time w/"Michael". Last edited by THi; 07-08-2009 at 06:17 PM. |
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I think one of the biggest lessons Michael Jackson's life and death provides is that fame isn't all it's cracked up to be. This little, incredibly talented 10 year old boy was never taught how to handle the fame his talent brought him effectively. I suspect that's very much because there were adults who were using him through which they could live vicariously -- first his dad ("your nose is too big" may have been Michael's most powerful and destructive Gremlin), then later his brothers and sisters (good for Janet for taking responsibility for her own life), the fans who felt entitled to more than just being entertained, the "doctors" and sycophants who surrounded him and fed off him, and the business people who were not necessarily operating with win/win intention. It would not have been in those people's best self-interest for Michael to have been able to effectively handle fame. I think being inundated by all that is more than we can reasonably expect a little kid to have the inner resources to handle effectively. Even far less talented or well-known grown-ups have a hard time accessing their inner resources when they're dealing with the effects of such influences. The same kind of thing is happening with many young, "successful" people right now -- famous young people who don't have a clue about effectively accessing their own inner resources, and are as vulnerable as dandelions to the world they live in that simultaneously bleeds them dry and urges them on to more "success" so that they can be further bled. How surprised is the world going to be when these kids go a similar route as MJ? I think the biggest lesson is: Let's empower children, not pimp them out. |
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p.s... THi, I just channeled Michael, and he told me that if he had another chance, he would forget about his fame and take more time to focus on his own three children, and he urges you to honor him by forgetting about fame and forgetting about him and instead focusing on spending all your free time with YOUR own three children.
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I dont think I learnt anything significant from Micheal's death. even though im young, i love his music to this day, and think he has influenced alot of people but some things he allegedly did were wrong and i am against that, but he is a dead man hopefully he repented before death
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