Employee is the modern name of Slave

[rak]

It’s a nice feeling when you have a decent job today; after all of the lay-offs and recession issue you feel that you stand-out on the crowd.

Technically I consider my self-jobless before after I graduate in college there is no enough opportunity for I.T people like me way back 2004, if ever there are hiring jobs for I.T they require many years of experience on that field so I have no much choice on that time but to find another kind of job even its not connected to my course what is important for me on that time is a job that has a enough amount of salary that can pay my bills. I’m living with my parents back then but as a graduated student I am pushing my self to become responsible and have contribution in our house at least I pay the water and cable bills. I been in 4 companies in Philippines, I never become contend to the company that I been working before, the number one reason is that the salary is not enough and I don’t enjoy my job. I was dreaming before that someday I will have the opportunity to work in a big company that pay’s well and thanks God my prayers has been answered and my imagination was manifested like what they said

What you think, so shall become (something like this)

Now I am working here in abroad on the largest Dairy Company here in Middle East as a Factory Manager’s Secretary, I can say that they pay me a good salary my job is not that complicated, less pressure and my colleagues is very friendly and we have a good relationship “but” there is a big BUT… but I am away to my family, I only have the chance to see them for 32 days in every year and sometimes it depends to the situation they may pull me out in the middle of my vacation if there are any issue in man-power. I had a hard time when I miss my family and sometimes I just want to resign and go back to Philippines and find another job or put-up a business but that decision is only driven by emotions I know that we will not going to be happy if our plate is empty and as of now I don’t have enough savings or plan to what kind of business or job I will replace if ever I resign. This fact really makes me think a lot and also motivate me to put-up a goal and start doing it right now.

I remember what Anthony Robbins said on his book on “Awakening the Giant within” about problem solving he said that when there is a problem try the three question that he gave, I only do the first step which is compare my situation before and today, so I did, and It was interesting what I find out, I find out that what really bothers me is not just being away to my love ones but the main issue here is that I don’t have enough control in my life that’s why I figure out that

Employee is the modern name of Slave

How did I say that? Well to all employee like me the question is do I need to elaborate about that?

Well anyway here we go…

In laymen’s term if you are employee the company owns you, they are the one who will decide until when you will work, when you must take a rest, when you will take your vacation to be with your love ones (sometimes they don’t gave you), they are the one who will say if your good or bad even though you really do a good job and for them you mess-up you cant do anything but just to agree on what they say, If you exceed doing their requirements they will still gave you the same salary but if you don’t they may decrease your salary or else terminate you… and this is the most touching moment of being an employee, assuming that you been a good boy for a long time plus you remain loyal with them and suddenly you need to resign because of health issue or personal problem what I most see on the old fellows is that they are going to be paid by an amount of money that you cannot even buy a brand new Toyota corolla. Almost more than half of their life they spent on their job and they only got that? Ridiculous!

Well I don’t know if I am being exaggerated here but to all employees like me I believe you can feel my drift.

There is nothing wrong if your are an employee today but what I am trying to say here is that being an Employee is not a advisable long term source of income if you make this as your source of income for a long run chances are you will neglect your real life and later on you will be force to make your job as your life.

I compare my situation before and today, before I ask my self where I can get the money to buy a brand new laptap, cellphone, Nikon camera, branded cloths etc. but now I ask my self if I will buy that or not,… money is not that much issue for me today, its nice to hear that but there is only one problem

I am not happy…

You can buy the latest equipment in the market but what is the sense of that if you’re not with your love ones?

People who work hard even its local or abroad, laborer or administrative position whether you’re a gasoline guy, janitor, General Manager or CEO your still a slave some one are dictating you (that’s why there is a high paying slaves.)

I think they just modernize the name “slave” to “employee” to attract people to let their life to be driven by others in terms of financial and personal growth.

Well this is just me.

[timothydrake]

I totally agree with what you are pointing out. I like to be free myself but I know that this is the real world and you have to be a slave before you can be free. I am currently in the long process of starting a small business to achieve financial freedom. I have just saved enough money to start my career as an entrepreneur.

[SimonaRich]

Originally Posted by timothydrake

I totally agree with what you are pointing out. I like to be free myself but I know that this is the real world and you have to be a slave before you can be free. I am currently in the long process of starting a small business to achieve financial freedom. I have just saved enough money to start my career as an entrepreneur.

You don't have to be a slave before you can be free. It is your choice to be or not to be a slave, no one elses. And if you consciously choose to become a slave, it is entirely up to you.

Our nature is always the one of a free person, but some people choose to be slaves because of their false beliefs and seeking of the approval of others.

[seeker5]

I think it's possible to be an employee and not be a slave.

I asked myself yesterday what makes me feel like a slave when I'm an employee. Then I wrote down a list of the opposite of that - what would it take for me to feel like a free man if I was an employee. Things came up like "Being able to set my own hours however I want, and change them at any time that I choose", "Being paid by my results, not by my hours", "Choosing my assignments and work instead of being handed them to me with no choice", "Having total power in when and how I take my vacation without having to request approval", "having my boss treat me as an equal, as someone to ask things from with it being ok if there is refusal instead of a boss who would command me", and many more.

At the same time, I also wrote a long list of what kind of responsibilities and duties I would have to make the above work. Because there is no freedom without a corresponding responsibility, it's important to be able to handle your freedom. Things came up like "Maintaining my own motivation instead of being motivated by the fear of my boss or of the organization", "Making very effective and efficient usage of my own time", "Being responsible to stand up for myself at all times and making sure I only work on things that I feel fully aligned with", "I have a sense of the true importance of my time", "I take 100% responsibility for my life and my circumstances", "I keep an appropriate level of self-discipline", and many more.

It was an interesting exercise what I came up with - a whole long list of things of ways I could be a free man while technically an employee along with a long list of responsibilities in order to make this work. It will be interesting if I can make it happen

[lifetimelearner]

Originally Posted by seeker5

I think it's possible to be an employee and not be a slave.

I asked myself yesterday what makes me feel like a slave when I'm an employee. Then I wrote down a list of the opposite of that - what would it take for me to feel like a free man if I was an employee. Things came up like "Being able to set my own hours however I want, and change them at any time that I choose", "Being paid by my results, not by my hours", "Choosing my assignments and work instead of being handed them to me with no choice", "Having total power in when and how I take my vacation without having to request approval", "having my boss treat me as an equal, as someone to ask things from with it being ok if there is refusal instead of a boss who would command me", and many more.

At the same time, I also wrote a long list of what kind of responsibilities and duties I would have to make the above work. Because there is no freedom without a corresponding responsibility, it's important to be able to handle your freedom. Things came up like "Maintaining my own motivation instead of being motivated by the fear of my boss or of the organization", "Making very effective and efficient usage of my own time", "Being responsible to stand up for myself at all times and making sure I only work on things that I feel fully aligned with", "I have a sense of the true importance of my time", "I take 100% responsibility for my life and my circumstances", "I keep an appropriate level of self-discipline", and many more.

It was an interesting exercise what I came up with - a whole long list of things of ways I could be a free man while technically an employee along with a long list of responsibilities in order to make this work. It will be interesting if I can make it happen

this is great !
I love your list

[lifetimelearner]

I called in sick today because my quality of care for my patients I am in charge of is suffering

this new company I am working for has shown me in the last few days that
money is their focus and not value

although they spew value they do not demonstrate it to me !

I will go back tommorrow with a list of changes I would like to see and if they accept it then I will stay otherwise -even in this economy -I will have to quit

suffering is not high on my list these days even if it's for money !

[silicon toad2000]

I completely disagree.

An alternative name for employee is student. The only thing an employer can dictate is when they can provide an environment in which you can learn.

The company doesn't own you and cannot dictate when you take time off. It's the choices you make yourself that own you and dictate how you live.

If a slave ran away from his/her master s/he would be killed.

[MartialDev]

What do you think?
Is Forum Contributor the modern name for Sharecropper??

[Jarreddo]

Honestly, it's not nearly as bad as you make it sound. A slave has no choice; I can choose every day whether or not I want to go in to work. Sure, I am given a schedule that says when I CAN work, but they have no way to FORCE me.

In this modern world, everything we do, every hour of every day, is our own choice. At any time, I could walk out of work without telling anybody and go to the park or another bar(since I already work in one XD)

The reasons I don't are A) working is mutually beneficial, that is, I will get paid for my time, and B) I took on the responsibility to work those hours. Any time I hate my job, I think to myself, 'Is it worth the consequences to leave?' Then I remember just a month ago when I was broke, owed all my friends money because I was mooching off them, was being threatened with eviction, had nothing to do all day... Clearly, I'm getting something in exchange for what I'm giving up.

I work forty hours a week for seven bucks an hour(six after taxes), and I like it. It's reliable, challenging, a decent workout, and pays all my bills. I spent the last few months having no money and loads of free time, and I consciously decided that I wanted a job like this. I am not a slave.

[Brutha]

The difference between a slave and an employee is that the employee can choose between multiple companies and can leave one job while a slave can't.

[RRR]

Employees are modern slaves. It is merely a more efficient form of power control. The illusion of responsibility and modern freedoms create a more content and productive slave.

[seeker5]

Originally Posted by Brutha

The difference between a slave and an employee is that the employee can choose between multiple companies and can leave one job while a slave can't.

In theory, yes.

In practice, employees who have the slave mentality feel they have no choice and that they must stay and work those 40 hours every week at that company, while slaves can choose to rebel and risk their lives to end their slavery.

[silicon toad2000]

People who feel enslaved will feel enslaved wherever they go and whatever they do. Even when they own their own business they resent it, they feel enslaved by it because they resent themselves.

Don't let me the 'man' get you down? The man is you.

[timothydrake]

Originally Posted by silicon toad2000

People who feel enslaved will feel enslaved wherever they go and whatever they do. Even when they own their own business they resent it, they feel enslaved by it because they resent themselves.

Don't let me the 'man' get you down? The man is you.

I feel that freedom is earned. Freedom is not something that you get freely. I do not worry about the "Man." I am the "Man." The path to financial freedom is full of sacrifice and I am on that course. Some people feel like they can be "free" on a dollar, I on the other hand don't share that feeling. I feel bound by my current financial limitations that limit the freedom I want to experience.

If I resented myself in anything I did I would not have begun. It is counterproductive to the character of oneself and self damaging. Why would anyone do this to themself? Not everyone in these forums have low confidence/self-esteems (the Emotional Mastery section is an exception).

[Dan.Linehan]

Originally Posted by silicon toad2000

People who feel enslaved will feel enslaved wherever they go and whatever they do. Even when they own their own business they resent it, they feel enslaved by it because they resent themselves.

Don't let me the 'man' get you down? The man is you.

Spot on quote.

You either accept responsibility for yourself or you don't. Most people don't.

[Athena Arianna]

I've thought of myself in the past as working as an "indentured servant". But it wasn't just my employer who held my "release papers" it was a combination of employer, the credit companies I owed so much money to, and yes, my own "need" to have things I " had" to borrow for.

I hated my job at the time but buried myself so deeply in loans that I felt I had to "contract" myself out to the highest paying employer until I could pay off the debt I'd locked myself into. Sort of like an immigrant who became an indentured servant had to "work off" the cost of their travel to America, for example.

It wasn't a comfortable place to be, but it helped me see my situation at the time clearly & realistically.

Of course I could have found other ways out of the bind I was in, which is why I called it "indentured servitude" instead of slavery.

And yes, finally I am a truly "free" American, at this point, but only by long hard years of learning not to buy anything unless it was with CASH.

Unfortunately there are a lot of other unwilling "Indentured Servants" out there taking my place methinks.

(Note, I agree working for an employer doesn't have to be like this, if it were something you liked or felt rewarded enough for doing that you would anyway, with the paycheck of minimal consequence).

Regards,
Athena Arianna

[Xanafax]

Employee's are useful.

It's like having a flock of sheep. You can't be a shepherd without sheep!

I intend to have many employees one day.

[SimonaRich]

Originally Posted by RRR

Employees are modern slaves. It is merely a more efficient form of power control. The illusion of responsibility and modern freedoms create a more content and productive slave.

Great thoughts on this topic! Could not have said better than that

Employees are indeed trained to lose themselves in the work because of the responsibilities they are given. They are trained to feel like they are important for the company and they take pride for that.

If only they understood how exploited they are and that they get pennies for the hours they work. The company does not need them, they can be replaced anytime by someone new.

But this is such a strong illusion that some people will never agree that employment is the same as slavery. They came to believe that employment is for their own good and that they should be grateful for being employed.

I really hope that some day there will be a major enlightenment in this area.

[rak]

Nothing's wrong if your are employee right now, thats the way of life you follow today and tomorrow you do it by your self, you learn then you apply.

By follow-follow-follow and never learn you are damaging one of the important component in life which is to GROW if you dont grow you stagnate or your dying.

My main message on this post is not to encourage the employees to quit on their job immidiately but to set a time for them self to make a plan and make it clear to them self what is their compas in life, where they are going or when they will stop and try another adventure in their life.

dont be clingy to your job but be aware how to really live life.

With love,
rak

[munish]

Originally Posted by seeker5

I think it's possible to be an employee and not be a slave.

I asked myself yesterday what makes me feel like a slave when I'm an employee.

Then I wrote down a list of the opposite of that - what would it take for me to feel like a free man if I was an employee.

Things came up like "Being able to set my own hours however I want, and change them at any time that I choose",

"Being paid by my results, not by my hours", "Choosing my assignments and work instead of being handed them to me with no choice",

"Having total power in when and how I take my vacation without having to request approval",

"having my boss treat me as an equal, as someone to ask things from with it being ok if there is refusal instead of a boss who would command me", and many more.

Everybody has got plans ,till they get hit.-Mike Tyson.

[rak]

by the way if you are interested to check the original location here it is

Employee is the modern name of Slave « Rakito’s Mill

Regards
rak

[bluedragon]

An employee is just the president of his own company of private services. And when he enters a firm, he agrees to a collaboration between the president of that firm and himself, the president of the firm "[his name inc.]". Unless you believe any type of collaboration between any type of entities is slavery, an employee can be a partner and not a slave, with the right attitude. You would have to determine that ALL partnerships between every employee on this Earth and his employer are very disadvantageous for the employee, in order to determine that every employee is a slave.

[Michael Chui]

Why do so many people feel a need to tell everyone who has a job how pathetic they are?

Feel empowered, ye wastrels, for slaves ye are.

I mean, besides clearly having no idea what they're talking about.

[rak]

If we do are job because of survival and we still pretending that we like this job even though deep inside of us we curse our boss to die, I think thats the kind of modern slave which we call employee.

[bluedragon]

Originally Posted by Michael Chui

Why do so many people feel a need to tell everyone who has a job how pathetic they are?

Feel empowered, ye wastrels, for slaves ye are.

I mean, besides clearly having no idea what they're talking about.

I don't know who you were referring to, but myself, I really don't have any idea what I am talking about. I am uncertain of many things when it comes to hierarchy, weather there's a need for a leader, weather we could function without firms where someone is the employer and others are employees etc.
What do you think would be the solution?

[Michael Chui]

Originally Posted by bluedragon

I am uncertain of many things when it comes to hierarchy, weather there's a need for a leader, weather we could function without firms where someone is the employer and others are employees etc.

What do you think would be the solution?

What's the problem?

If the problem is your uncertainty, and that it shouldn't exist, then apply yourself to the situation and understand it. Then you will not be uncertain.

What is the situation?

What is the history? What kind of society do we want the future to be? Why? How do we get there?

To find an answer, you have to ask a question. Unless, well, I can't resist:

42.