Everyone is a Darkworkers

[Parthon]

Chris: that's where it breaks down. If there is only one of you, how can you give to others. How can humanity help people other than humanity.

Without the "us vs them" mentality, there's no giving/taking/receiving, it's just all one big group of moving energy. If your avatar gives another avatar some money, then in reality humanity just gave itself some money, net gain of 0.

I came to the conclusion of this view by following both light and darkworker paths to their logical conclusion. This view is what comes after the *worker paths.

It only sounds very lightworkerish because there's no self.

[supertom]

Need to start a DW community a bit liek the PUA community where we can talk in secrecy.

[Zuvuya42]

It seems to me that defining oneself as either a darkworker or lightworker is egotistical. Indeed, everything we do is self serving, but the self and the whole are the same - so a "lightworker" is also a "darkworker", and vice versa.

Why the need to define yourself with a title? Cannot the "light" be as blinding as "darkness"? What about focusing on non-polarized energy, things that are neutral and clear?

Btw, i had never heard the term darkworker till i came here - its a very cool way to put it! Although it did make me think of an evil jedi when i first read it.

[vMike]

Originally Posted by Xanafax

Living for ones self - Darkworking - is ultimately the highest moral ideal.

One can only ever hope to help oneself. An attempt to help others is futile in that ultimately people are stupid. Individuals are intelligent, but get them together and you have a herd of sheep who would rather listen to the media than you.

Instead of thinking we are all one big happy family with just a few wayward strays - stop deluding yourself - a more appropriate model of thought is that of the noble individual. Solitary Man. Life is it's own reason, there is no universal "meaning" to help and support each other. Help others by focussing on yourself, not on others. Live for your own gain in a rational way and believe me, the world will fall into place for you.

When I look at people like Richard Branson, I don't see a heartless fat-cat out for himself. I see a proud, rightfully selfish individual achieving his peak and it inspires me to be better. In his act of selfishness he has inadvertently inspired me and many others to be better.

When I see the "Lightworkers", spouting nonsense about loving your neighbour, giving to the poor, helping the needy I feel almost sick because he is most deplorable in my opinion. Choosing to help others before yourself is disrespectful. Charity is a lie. Altruism is a creeping hell.

Ditto on that!
I wouldn't say charity is a bad thing though, but the way its usually done is quite dumb - instead of feeding the poor, teach them how to get their own food (besides that it can do a great deal to help improve your public image ).
On a more serious note I do believe that donating a regular portion of your earnings to a charity of your choice can do a great deal to help take things in perspective and is a good growth experience for a darkworker.

[Plato]

vMike, darkworking is explicitly about narrowing your perspective. That is by definition - your perspective is yourself. It is a contraction of your consciousness.

How does one contract their consciousness?

You focus on yourself only. The problems of the world fade away to be replaced by a great deal of concern about your own well being.

The whole point of darkworking is that things are a BIG DEAL to you. Thinking, "Oh look, somebody is worse off than me, my problems aren't so bad" decreases your motivation to serve yourself because it makes you less fearful.

The motivation to take control and dominate your environment comes from being intensely involved in your own good and nobody else's. A darkworker is not a chilled out person. Things that would be little nags to another person are massive to a darkworker -- to the point of taking action to fix it. Does this make sense to you?

Go two weeks thinking only of furthering your own interests - money, health, status, fitness... Energy flows where attention goes. When you're attention is on furthering your own ends intentional energy (A.K.A. motivation) will be generated. Concentrated energy is fear energy.

You will find the little things way more of a big deal and you'll have massive motivation to take control.

[vMike]

Originally Posted by Plato

vMike, darkworking is explicitly about narrowing your perspective. That is by definition - your perspective is yourself. It is a contraction of your consciousness.

Plato, I'm talking about here perspective in the long term sense of the word, rather than concerning consciousness. That is to learn to think big and plan further ahead, rather than concentrate on short term benefits.
I always think about further promoting my interests.. what else is there to think about?

[Plato]

How does giving your money away help you think long term?

[vMike]

Originally Posted by Plato

How does giving your money away help you think long term?

Not just giving away, contributing to special causes to promote your political, historical and social ideas, interests.
Assuming money (and lots of it) is your current objective, once you start making enough money to live comfortably without having to work 9-5 and will become confident in your ability to make more, money itself will become much less of a motivator and will need to be replaced by other more strategic objectives.
But I'm not a "darkworking specialist", more like a student myself, and I can only judge by my own experience. Read Rockefeller's biography for reference.

[Marth]

If you were completely focused on helping others you would be on the streets dead from starvation.

[Parthon]

Originally Posted by Marth

If you were completely focused on helping others you would be on the streets dead from starvation.

That's a completely darkworker view of it.

A good helper realises that accepting and asking reward for contribution is a part of helping others. Focussing on expanding on one's own ability to help others expands the impact and area that the help can cover. Not spending the effort required to expand ones abilities to help others is an act of selfishness.

Taking care of oneself in order to help others is quite selfless.