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darkw0rker · 12-11-2008, 02:51 AM

No. I am not talking about suicide.

We are all going to die. We know that we will die in the end. But most of us believe that this thing called 'death' is not going to happen at least for a while.

In fact we are right most of the time. A teenager doesn't expect to die next year. Even Joe in his 50s thinks he's gonna reach 70, being the most pessimistic.

So now that we all believe we have quite some time ahead of us, we are likely to procrastinate. Why? Because we ask the following question, 'How do I want to live?'

In this question lies a great mystery. When I used to ask myself, 'How I want to live', it seemed to me that I can always have some time to change how I want to live, because after all life goes on.

But today I saw the other side of the question. How should I die?

Now in this way, I know that I may die the next hour, or even the next moment, so the time factor becomes really critical here for me.

So I decided that I want to die really powerful. Others may decide that they want to die wealthy.

Overall I found this way of thinking, death concerned, much more powerful and motivating than 'life concerned'.

Thought it would be nice to share it. Let me know what your view is.

missing · 12-11-2008, 08:20 AM

I'd rather go out with a blaze of glory than the slow depressing deterioration we see in most modern life. Hospitals, for one, have got to be the WORST places to die, no matter how "peaceful". So sterile, so institutionalized. Ugh. I'd far rather die in a nice wilderness setting, or at least my own home. Preferably alone (none of this "surrounded by loved ones crap", although that can change if somehow in life I acquire the right "loved ones").

I realize you said this wasn't about suicide (oh well), and I'm not saying I want to jump off a bridge tomorrow, but I'd rather pull a Hunter S. Thompson than deteriorate to the point where I can't wipe the ♥♥♥♥♥ from my own @$$. By that point cognitive and physical capacities have fallen so far that arranging a dignified death for your self is pretty much out of the question. The trick is, knowing when your nearing "point of no return", and act before you pass it.

I suppose the most concise way to put it is that I want to die on my own terms, not society's, or for the sake of other individual. Too many people in western society allow death to be forced upon them against there will. Like darkw0rker says, even Joe at 50 thinks he's going to reach 70. At 50 I say bring it on at 60! Or quicker. Whenever really, age doesn't matter. What matters is that I embrace death rather than fear it. Life for life's sake just doesn't cut it.

jtracy · 12-11-2008, 10:48 AM

I want to die feeling very pleased about what I was able to accomplish in this life. I want to die knowing that I had contributed to the world something that will live long beyond my time. I want to be remembered fondly. I want to die with no regrets. I gather missing's loved ones are not really loved ones (and I can see where missing is coming from); I want to die surrounded by people I truly loved and who truly loved me. I want to die quickly, the idea of lingering in a hospital is indeed repellant. Ideally I will die peacefully in my sleep. As missing says, I want to die on my own terms, not society's, or for the sake of other individual.

Slamboard · 12-11-2008, 10:54 AM

I want to die with the knowledge that no one is depending on me. That means that I don't want to die now.

Boby · 12-11-2008, 03:08 PM

Satisfied.

I don't want to die, so I don't think about death. Subconsciously i know that thinking about it could have some impact on reality. Maybe the law of attraction...

I want to live. And i'm going to live. I will avoid death by all means, even by dispelling thoughts about it.

missing · 12-11-2008, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jtracy

I gather missing's loved ones are not really loved ones (and I can see where missing is coming from);

this is right and it's wrong. It's right in that I don't feel very connected to my friends and family, so in that sense they are not really "loved ones". But it's not as if they've been abusive or anything. Mostly they are just victims, partly of culture, and partly of their own circumstance and have failed to connect with me or to help me lead a satisfying life. I do care about them, but it feels more like a duty and my heart isn't really in it. I have a hard time thinking them "loved ones". They are far more invested in me emotionally than I am them and because of that I feel have a responsibility to them, which I actually find rather irksome. Part of the reason I want to die alone and make a big deal about it being "on my own terms" is because I want to ensure my death is about myself, my own soul, and as far removed from my temporary "earthly connections" as possible.

Quote:

I want to die with the knowledge that no one is depending on me. That means that I don't want to die now.

I sometimes have the same feelings.

Ralph · 12-11-2008, 05:49 PM

I'm aware right now that I won't die for a long, long time. I've just become aware of my life's purpose. When I look back at the 17 years of my life, I see them as an unconscious preparation that laid foundation for my conscious action now.

I have an important message to send to this world, difference to make. I'd like to die with a sense of accomplishment. With an awareness that I did my thing, enjoyed the process, had fun, kicked butts and taken names ... And that it's time to finally return home from the trip to this world

Niki · 12-12-2008, 06:32 PM

Not!

Starman · 12-14-2008, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkw0rker

No. I am not talking about suicide.
We are all going to die.

There is a philosophy, or a group of people called immortalists, that believe they are not going to die.

There are some others that are trying to stop it.

Check it out:

YouTube - THE IMMORTALISTS - a short film

Starman

Plato · 12-14-2008, 06:58 PM

I don't want to die.

In fact I'm considering devoting my life to life extension research given the possibility of enjoying many more life spans as a reward. Probably the best way to do this is become super rich and then invest heavily in research.

At the very least I want to be cryogenically frozen.

Michael Chui · 12-15-2008, 01:02 AM

I would like to be shot.

NyraSponge · 02-10-2009, 04:46 AM

Oh wow. All your honesty is making my ears bleed. lol. THANK YOU> i dont get honesty ever. So it is sooo revitalizing to see it. or at least it feels like you are all being honest. So many ways to die.. I mean you could walk across the street and die. lol. People die for some bizarre reasons. So if you get hit by a car and survive. basically try again tomorrow. lol. HUMOR! =D

I want to die naturally. SO i am guessing with the path that i am down. I will self destruct. hell no. i ain't killing myself. It's more the opposite really. Myself is gonna kill me. LIke all this negativity and junk. I am gonna be like a freaking big bang. lol. yea i might implode. or spontaneously combust. Yea burst into flames. and be ash. and maybe ill become a phoneix. All i know. however i die., i want it to be conducive to my nature. Au Naturale. or however it is spelled. completely natural. And i would prefer not to be in pain. but hey if pain is my nature then let it REIGN! haha nice pun right? lol .i'm good. anyway.
i mean i feel like **** and i am suffering with my mentality and emotions. psychologically unsound. whatever, or however i die. just let it be. GO WITH THE FLOW. death should come on its own. if you fight for your life and survive. then it isn't your turn. when you die you die. goodbye. plain and simple. argumentative?

NyraSponge · 02-10-2009, 04:51 AM

Oh yea, who would want to not die? do you realize how routine this life is? doesn't matter what else is out there. in an eternal life you will eventual do it all. and do it over and over and over incessantly. and you will be bored. wishing you could die. think about it. i wouldn't want to live forever feeling the way i do. and i know even if i am happy. why would i want stay? **** or get off the pot basically. that for everything in life. Does anyone agree, or disagree?

bman · 02-10-2009, 07:47 AM

Die in my sleep when I've no worries left about anyone.

I don't mind not being able to achieve much but at least I know I tried.

Most importantly without any regrets and making sure my close ones are taken care of before I go.

Chris Cade · 02-10-2009, 07:53 AM

This thread reminds me of a bumper sticker:

"I want to die, like my grandfather, in my sleep...

Not like the people in his car screaming and yelling."

Plato · 02-10-2009, 09:23 AM

Hahaha, Chris, that's very good. I think that's a Bob Monkhouse joke?

I've changed a lot since I wrote my post up there ^.

Now I know I'll die whenever I'm meant to.

Chris Cade · 02-11-2009, 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plato

I've changed a lot since I wrote my post up there ^.

I have too

These days I change so rapidly, that it's kind of mind-boggling sometimes...

Ralph · 02-11-2009, 07:15 AM

Thanks for a cool question. My own answer quite surprised me.

I'm an adventure-seeker type, extremely growth-oriented, high-pace living. But when I die, I want to be looking in the eyes of a woman I love. Or eventually, in a forest, the nature's embrace. I want it to be calm, like falling asleep, I die with a smile and positive anticipation

dice · 02-11-2009, 08:13 AM

Under the sun, by the water.

Not in my sleep though - I want to be there in the moment. Death is the only thing that comes once in a lifetime haha.

When I was small I was so terrified of death that I couldn't sleep at night and I wished constantly that I had never learned what it was. But now I'm totally fine with it - I'm really just going back to where I came from anyhow..

darkw0rker · 02-12-2009, 01:03 AM

I was thinking about death last week, I realized that I would love to die when writing!

So this is my vision: I am theorizing on an old piece of paper, trying to discover new solutions for my old, life-long philosophical problems. I realize that all I've been writing my whole life was nothing but language paradoxes. I am in middle of my sentence, I see light, I see darkness, I die. My sentence never completes itself, a mystery for me and the world!

I'm sure it's not gonna happen like that, but that's how I like it to be.

have fun and don't forget to serve the self.

Michael Chui · 02-12-2009, 03:07 AM

You'll be Fermat the Second.

cookie5 · 02-12-2009, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bman

Die in my sleep when I've no worries left about anyone.

I don't mind not being able to achieve much but at least I know I tried.

Most importantly without any regrets and making sure my close ones are taken care of before I go.

Liked this bman! I'd say peacefully and happily with no harm or worry left to other's! Otherwise UNAWARE ALLTOGETHER!

sk8joyful · 02-12-2009, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jtracy

I want to die feeling very pleased about what I was able to accomplish in this life. I want to die knowing that I had contributed to the world something that will live long beyond my time. I want to be remembered fondly. I want to die with no regrets. I gather missing's loved ones are not really loved ones (and I can see where missing is coming from); I want to die surrounded by people I truly loved and who truly loved me. I want to die quickly, the idea of lingering in a hospital is indeed repellant. Ideally I will die peacefully in my sleep. As missing says, I want to die on my own terms, not society's, or for the sake of other individual.

well said!

funchy · 02-13-2009, 07:44 PM

In my sleep, when I am 102 years old. It'll be when I have made my peace with my life and I've accomplished everything I was put here to do.

12-11-2008, 02:51 AM	#1 (permalink)
darkw0rker Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 159	So how do you want to die? No. I am not talking about suicide. We are all going to die. We know that we will die in the end. But most of us believe that this thing called 'death' is not going to happen at least for a while. In fact we are right most of the time. A teenager doesn't expect to die next year. Even Joe in his 50s thinks he's gonna reach 70, being the most pessimistic. So now that we all believe we have quite some time ahead of us, we are likely to procrastinate. Why? Because we ask the following question, 'How do I want to live?' In this question lies a great mystery. When I used to ask myself, 'How I want to live', it seemed to me that I can always have some time to change how I want to live, because after all life goes on. But today I saw the other side of the question. How should I die? Now in this way, I know that I may die the next hour, or even the next moment, so the time factor becomes really critical here for me. So I decided that I want to die really powerful. Others may decide that they want to die wealthy. Overall I found this way of thinking, death concerned, much more powerful and motivating than 'life concerned'. Thought it would be nice to share it. Let me know what your view is.

02-10-2009, 04:51 AM	#13 (permalink)
NyraSponge Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 112	Oh yea, who would want to not die? do you realize how routine this life is? doesn't matter what else is out there. in an eternal life you will eventual do it all. and do it over and over and over incessantly. and you will be bored. wishing you could die. think about it. i wouldn't want to live forever feeling the way i do. and i know even if i am happy. why would i want stay? **** or get off the pot basically. that for everything in life. Does anyone agree, or disagree? Last edited by NyraSponge; 02-10-2009 at 04:53 AM.

02-11-2009, 08:13 AM	#19 (permalink)
dice Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 435	Under the sun, by the water. Not in my sleep though - I want to be there in the moment. Death is the only thing that comes once in a lifetime haha. When I was small I was so terrified of death that I couldn't sleep at night and I wished constantly that I had never learned what it was. But now I'm totally fine with it - I'm really just going back to where I came from anyhow.. Last edited by dice; 02-11-2009 at 08:18 AM.

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12-11-2008, 08:20 AM	#2 (permalink)
missing Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 388	I'd rather go out with a blaze of glory than the slow depressing deterioration we see in most modern life. Hospitals, for one, have got to be the WORST places to die, no matter how "peaceful". So sterile, so institutionalized. Ugh. I'd far rather die in a nice wilderness setting, or at least my own home. Preferably alone (none of this "surrounded by loved ones crap", although that can change if somehow in life I acquire the right "loved ones"). I realize you said this wasn't about suicide (oh well), and I'm not saying I want to jump off a bridge tomorrow, but I'd rather pull a Hunter S. Thompson than deteriorate to the point where I can't wipe the ♥♥♥♥♥ from my own @$$. By that point cognitive and physical capacities have fallen so far that arranging a dignified death for your self is pretty much out of the question. The trick is, knowing when your nearing "point of no return", and act before you pass it. I suppose the most concise way to put it is that I want to die on my own terms, not society's, or for the sake of other individual. Too many people in western society allow death to be forced upon them against there will. Like darkw0rker says, even Joe at 50 thinks he's going to reach 70. At 50 I say bring it on at 60! Or quicker. Whenever really, age doesn't matter. What matters is that I embrace death rather than fear it. Life for life's sake just doesn't cut it.

12-11-2008, 10:48 AM	#3 (permalink)
jtracy Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 159	I want to die feeling very pleased about what I was able to accomplish in this life. I want to die knowing that I had contributed to the world something that will live long beyond my time. I want to be remembered fondly. I want to die with no regrets. I gather missing's loved ones are not really loved ones (and I can see where missing is coming from); I want to die surrounded by people I truly loved and who truly loved me. I want to die quickly, the idea of lingering in a hospital is indeed repellant. Ideally I will die peacefully in my sleep. As missing says, I want to die on my own terms, not society's, or for the sake of other individual.

12-11-2008, 10:54 AM	#4 (permalink)
Slamboard Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 37	I want to die with the knowledge that no one is depending on me. That means that I don't want to die now.

12-11-2008, 03:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
Boby Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 5	Satisfied. I don't want to die, so I don't think about death. Subconsciously i know that thinking about it could have some impact on reality. Maybe the law of attraction... I want to live. And i'm going to live. I will avoid death by all means, even by dispelling thoughts about it.

12-11-2008, 05:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
Ralph Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 341	I'm aware right now that I won't die for a long, long time. I've just become aware of my life's purpose. When I look back at the 17 years of my life, I see them as an unconscious preparation that laid foundation for my conscious action now. I have an important message to send to this world, difference to make. I'd like to die with a sense of accomplishment. With an awareness that I did my thing, enjoyed the process, had fun, kicked butts and taken names ... And that it's time to finally return home from the trip to this world

12-12-2008, 06:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
Niki Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 565	Not!

12-14-2008, 06:58 PM	#10 (permalink)
Plato Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: in your fridge Posts: 2,018	I don't want to die. In fact I'm considering devoting my life to life extension research given the possibility of enjoying many more life spans as a reward. Probably the best way to do this is become super rich and then invest heavily in research. At the very least I want to be cryogenically frozen.

12-15-2008, 01:02 AM	#11 (permalink)
Michael Chui Family Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Seattle, Washington, USA Posts: 3,977	I would like to be shot.

02-10-2009, 04:46 AM	#12 (permalink)
NyraSponge Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 112	Oh wow. All your honesty is making my ears bleed. lol. THANK YOU> i dont get honesty ever. So it is sooo revitalizing to see it. or at least it feels like you are all being honest. So many ways to die.. I mean you could walk across the street and die. lol. People die for some bizarre reasons. So if you get hit by a car and survive. basically try again tomorrow. lol. HUMOR! =D I want to die naturally. SO i am guessing with the path that i am down. I will self destruct. hell no. i ain't killing myself. It's more the opposite really. Myself is gonna kill me. LIke all this negativity and junk. I am gonna be like a freaking big bang. lol. yea i might implode. or spontaneously combust. Yea burst into flames. and be ash. and maybe ill become a phoneix. All i know. however i die., i want it to be conducive to my nature. Au Naturale. or however it is spelled. completely natural. And i would prefer not to be in pain. but hey if pain is my nature then let it REIGN! haha nice pun right? lol .i'm good. anyway. i mean i feel like **** and i am suffering with my mentality and emotions. psychologically unsound. whatever, or however i die. just let it be. GO WITH THE FLOW. death should come on its own. if you fight for your life and survive. then it isn't your turn. when you die you die. goodbye. plain and simple. argumentative?

02-10-2009, 07:47 AM	#14 (permalink)
bman Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 190	Die in my sleep when I've no worries left about anyone. I don't mind not being able to achieve much but at least I know I tried. Most importantly without any regrets and making sure my close ones are taken care of before I go.

02-10-2009, 07:53 AM	#15 (permalink)
Chris Cade Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Vancouver WA Posts: 438	This thread reminds me of a bumper sticker: "I want to die, like my grandfather, in my sleep... Not like the people in his car screaming and yelling."

02-10-2009, 09:23 AM	#16 (permalink)
Plato Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: in your fridge Posts: 2,018	Hahaha, Chris, that's very good. I think that's a Bob Monkhouse joke? I've changed a lot since I wrote my post up there ^. Now I know I'll die whenever I'm meant to.

02-11-2009, 07:15 AM	#18 (permalink)
Ralph Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 341	Thanks for a cool question. My own answer quite surprised me. I'm an adventure-seeker type, extremely growth-oriented, high-pace living. But when I die, I want to be looking in the eyes of a woman I love. Or eventually, in a forest, the nature's embrace. I want it to be calm, like falling asleep, I die with a smile and positive anticipation

02-12-2009, 01:03 AM	#20 (permalink)
darkw0rker Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 159	I was thinking about death last week, I realized that I would love to die when writing! So this is my vision: I am theorizing on an old piece of paper, trying to discover new solutions for my old, life-long philosophical problems. I realize that all I've been writing my whole life was nothing but language paradoxes. I am in middle of my sentence, I see light, I see darkness, I die. My sentence never completes itself, a mystery for me and the world! I'm sure it's not gonna happen like that, but that's how I like it to be. have fun and don't forget to serve the self.

02-12-2009, 03:07 AM	#21 (permalink)
Michael Chui Family Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Seattle, Washington, USA Posts: 3,977	You'll be Fermat the Second.

02-13-2009, 07:44 PM	#24 (permalink)
funchy Family Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: east coast, USA Posts: 1,628	In my sleep, when I am 102 years old. It'll be when I have made my peace with my life and I've accomplished everything I was put here to do.

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