Why would anyone want to be a darkworker?

[Athena]

When you act in the interest of self and the greater good, you have the energy of the WHOLE to support you.


When you act in the interest of self only, you have the energy of only 1 to support you.


Why would anyone choose the latter?

[Akashic_Librarian]

I choose it because I wish to choose it. It is my choice.

I want to be happy. Rich. Healthy. Successful.

And frankly I want it now. I want it all...and I don't care how

Life is good when you amoral!

[supertom]

think about it carefully if you think that then you havent fully accpeted your human experience

[Athena]

Wow, Akashic. I predict this is a little short-sighted phase for you.


Basically, true lightworking, is about acting in interest of self AND the greater good.

From a business perspective:
A similar thing is described in business, as double or triple bottom line-- when a company acts for the good of the society, world, and its own bottom line, everybody wins. It also makes it's own foundations, the very country and world that it is a part of, stronger.

If a company acts only for self-interest, pushing its own product, or toxins, into the bloodstream, without regard for the health of the whole body, then it poisons other organs, and eventually, the whole body is destroyed, including the organ/company itself.


When you recognize that you are part of a greater whole, your energy and power expands.

If you want to be SELF ONLY, then you will only get enough energy for 1 person flow into you.

If you want to be SELF and WHOLE, you will get that much energy proportionally, into you. This includes resources, money, power, etc, all the shiny things that a darkworker claims to want. The lightworker can have those things even more easily.


From a natural perspective:
Being a darkworker is a closed system. It's trying to grow your plant inside a box, with 1 artificial light, with closed- and self-only motives. What a sad (and dark) place to be.


If you turn to light, and grow your plant outside in the open, with in the whole system of nature, then you have the energy of the sun, rain, rich soil, to grow on. That is real, and natural. You have exponentially more resources, and power that way.


And as a human body:
a healthy cell knows that it has its own integrity, AND is part of a greater whole. It is connected to its own purpose, has its own resources flow in, and energy flow out, that benefits the health of the whole body.

A rouge cell, like cancer, has forgotten its place in the whole body. Eventually, with self-only action and faulty motives, it destroys the body and itself.


And, evolutionarily, nature favors lightworkers. No one wants a selfish cell in the body for long. Any gain by darkworkers is temporary and unstable, like a sugar high.


Lightworkers have even more power, and it is true and stable power.


Lightworkers REALLY rule all.

[Athena]

Hey! Steve said some similar things in the oneness blog too!!!

Yes humanity really is a body. Every cell must see its place in its organ, and body as a whole. When a cell acts from light energy, its own power expands, and the power of the whole body expands.

A dark cell functions on a small portion of its potential energy, while destroying what's around it, and eventually itself, too.


Choose Lightworking. Good for yourself, good for all.




I think the next post should be about the difference between being an airy fairy "lightworker", and a real lightworker, who realizes that personal integrity, and giving energy to the body at it's own highest energy point (eg actions that are most effective, in line with personal talents and path, and that contribute to the greatest number, not necessarily putting energy into serving small things like individual requests or people on the street, which is generally ineffective and diffuses energy)
in a coordinated, powerful action, is best. That is real lightworking, being smart about the energy that goes into it, and out at the highest point.



Also, spiritually, and even biologically, everyone on this earth must have a true lightworking purpose, your spiritual DNA, path and mission. Just as every cell, naturally, is programmed with a purpose that benefits the whole body.

When you follow that, that is your REAL purpose on earth.


If anyone is darkworking, they cannot be following their true path, as they are bypassing their own natural DNA programming.


So, choose SMART and real lightworking.

[Stargirl]

Steve discusses how lightworkers and darkworkers eventually follow the same path. It just takes time for lightworkers to see that to help others they must help themselves. And darkworkers soon see to help themselves they need to work with others.

You can say lightworking is the right path for you, but someone else may be more inclined to darkworking. It's two sides of the same coin.

They're all just paths.
There isn't a right and wrong one.

I'm happy you found that lightworking is right for you. And I'm happy Akashic found darkworking works for him.

As long as you make a conscious decision and move forward consciously, you will learn and grow. Whichever mindset you choose.

[CroMagna]

It is much more difficult for me to choose lightworking. When I get up a brush my teeth, I do so because I want to have a clean, fresh mouth. It is about my aesthetics and health. I can not fathom someone brushing their teeth "for the greater good" or taking a shower "for the good of the whole".

Also lightworking is not good for a person with my passive demeanor and history of abuse. By serving all of humanity, I would feel unsafe. I would be putting myself in a position of getting walked all over. You are not necessarily "energized by the whole", first of all there are darkworkers and secondly most people are NPCs.

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Originally Posted by CroMagna

Also lightworking is not good for a person with my passive demeanor and history of abuse. By serving all of humanity, I would feel unsafe. I would be putting myself in a position of getting walked all over. You are not necessarily "energized by the whole", first of all there are darkworkers and secondly most people are NPCs.

excellent point. I imagine I'd be highly susceptible to "lightworker's syndrome" simply because I'm so highly sensitive to everything. I've already developed darkworker tactics to "protect" myself long before I ever knew about the term. Were I to polarize that direction I feel I'd merely be becoming conscious by doing the same kind of thing I've been doing all along. By becoming conscious I can better focus and put my actions to worthwhile use and make a bigger actual contribution to the world. Which in the end would benefit not only myself but the "whole". Moving to lightworking would be putting up resistance on the path I've naturally started down. Why fight inertia when you can work WITH it?

also, I think the OP mis-understands the concept of energy as it pertains to darkworking. At least in terms of how I understand it. As a darkworker you are not separate from the whole energetically (you never are) but you consciously draw energy away from the whole to benefit yourself. Could this not actually be beneficial to lightworkers as naturally they are inclined to give? The relationship has potential to be mutually beneficial. So long as they aren't suffering from lightworker syndrome (which is always a possibility, but as a darkworker it would not be my problem). Granted, I don't think the darkworker path is a good idea for some people, as they will abuse the energy they receive from the whole. Personally I don't think I fall under that umbrella, but rather the opposite. I feel it would be DANGEROUS for me to polarize to the light, both to myself and the whole. I can't say what % of the population is similar to me, but I'm guessing I'm in the minority. Even if the world is ready to polarize in a light-general direction, I feel some darkworkers could and should be accommodated in the shift. I consider it extraordinarily dangerous in fact, for an entire population to polarize one way or another, light or dark.

[darkw0rker]

I like darkworking better because from the moment I was born I was too much selfless. And by selfless I do not mean I was there for people, I simply did not care about them either.

So darkworking for me really makes me powerful because I know that I'm too prone to 'Lightworking Syndrome'.

[Jarreddo]

The way I see it, it's pretty close to the difference between socialism and libertarianism. Or at least, as I define them; I'm not too good with political terminology, so feel free to correct my wording.

Neither one is 'wrong', they just have different strategies. Socialists think that people on their own can be held back by their circumstances and complications, and want a larger, bulkier network to hold people up. Libertarians find that network inefficient and think it drags people down, and think that people can do a better job on their own. Both have the same goal(life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness) but different methods. And maybe that's the way it should be; a country where the state keeps getting bigger and bigger will eventually fall apart, but so will a country where people are left on their own too much. I think which approach is right depends on the situation.

[m18pak]

When you act in the interest of self and the greater good, you have the energy of the WHOLE to support you.


When you act in the interest of self only, you have the energy of only 1 to support you.


Why would anyone choose the latter?

Darkworkers are people who have never gotten any support from others. They are people who have not had the experience of anyone caring for them, and they have come to believe that no-one ever will. Darkworking is not a choice but a means of survival.

Darkworkers have no faith in the goodness of others.

[tomn8er]

Originally Posted by darkw0rker

I like darkworking better because from the moment I was born I was too much selfless. And by selfless I do not mean I was there for people, I simply did not care about them either.

So darkworking for me really makes me powerful because I know that I'm too prone to 'Lightworking Syndrome'.

Wow that makes no sense at all. You know that "selfless" is another word for "unselfish" right? So what you're saying is that naturally you are an unselfish lightworker but you feel the need to counteract that by becoming a darkworker?

[tomn8er]

Originally Posted by m18pak

Darkworkers are people who have never gotten any support from others. They are people who have not had the experience of anyone caring for them, and they have come to believe that no-one ever will. Darkworking is not a choice but a means of survival.

Darkworkers have no faith in the goodness of others.

I totally agree. But then Athena is right to point out that the darkworker path is inferior to the path of the lightworker. Ergo, the lightworker/darkworker philosophy is a false dichotomy and the whole concept breaks down. Steve says that both positions are equally valid and powerful, yet the darkworker path is clearly inferior because the best a darkworker can hope for is temporary power until all the people he screwed over, double-crossed and stepped on to get to the top will come back to bite him in the ass. The lightworker position, on the other hand, is stable because they don't have to worry about the consequences of a bad reputation and people coming after them.

I started another thread about this topic where I argue that the path of the darkworker is one of ignorance, in the same way that racism, sexism, homophobia, etc. are all borne out of self-centred ignorance. Clearly the lightworker path is better because the level of awareness is so much higher in the lightworker.

Man this whole "lightworker/darkworker" concept really grinds my gears.

[Cran]

Originally Posted by m18pak

Darkworkers are people who have never gotten any support from others. They are people who have not had the experience of anyone caring for them, and they have come to believe that no-one ever will. Darkworking is not a choice but a means of survival.

Darkworkers have no faith in the goodness of others.

Uhm... to put it simply: NO.

I have a very supportive family, especially my mother and my stepfather, and I KNOW that they'd do everything in their power to help me if need arises.
I have been in situations where I was in dire need and got help. I trust them, and I trust a few other people. I know how they react if I need help (likewise, I would give them help, too, if they asked for it, because I like them very much).

[Halffull]

Originally Posted by Athena

When you act in the interest of self and the greater good, you have the energy of the WHOLE to support you.


When you act in the interest of self only, you have the energy of only 1 to support you.


Why would anyone choose the latter?

Darkworkers are typically VERY good at getting the energy of other's behind them... better than some lightworkers even.

Often they know how to use negative emotions like fear and hate much more effectively, and are just as good at using positive ones like hope and love.

Just an observation...

I don't think darkworking is really sustainable tho if you're lying to everybody about your intentions. Eventually you get caught in a lie...

[ProjectX]

Money, Power, Status. Thats what I want to achieve, but not through double crossing people. I believe in the win-win way. But if I was to benefit from someone's downfall but not through my fault I am totally fine with that.
But in the end, all that power for which I have consumed is really for one cause and that is to reveal the truth.

[Plato]

"If only you knew the POWER of the dark side" - Darth.

[Ecce Homo]

Originally Posted by Plato

"If only you knew the POWER of the dark side" - Darth.

Awesome!

[missing]

Originally Posted by Plato

"If only you knew the POWER of the dark side" - Darth.

not only that, but "good is dumb" per the words of Dark Helmet.

[Halffull]

Originally Posted by Plato

"If only you knew the POWER of the dark side" - Darth.

Perfect Analogy .

Both the darkside AND lightside can use lightsabers, and influence peoples thoughts.

but only the DARK side can use force lightning.

[Akashic_Librarian]

Ahh not quite Yoda does use his own version.

All though you don't see those cool mephistopholean beards on Jedi do you?

[Byron]

@Akashic: It has come to light that you are in high school. You seem to be one of the most vocal supporters in these discussions of the darkworker way. In what part of your life does your darkworker philosophy come to practice?

And if I'm not mistaken, didn't your 'location' used to read 'The Light' when you first joined this board?

[BlueCrane]

All I can say (with the signature of m18pak) is:

We do not see the world as it is.
We see the world as we are.

[artandstuff]

Originally Posted by CroMagna

Also lightworking is not good for a person with my passive demeanor and history of abuse. By serving all of humanity, I would feel unsafe. I would be putting myself in a position of getting walked all over. You are not necessarily "energized by the whole", first of all there are darkworkers and secondly most people are NPCs.

Yes, this is exactly why I am considering polarizing as a darkworker. (Although I'm also considering the usefulness of polarizing in BOTH directions, in different areas, if possible.)

[Andrew Gubb]

Because they are tempted to. It's an illusion, but it does give the illusion of pleasure, too.