How do you mix PD and being humble?

[songwriter]

I find it very hard. Sometimes I'm so conscious about something and so confident that I'm not humble at all. I'm sure of many things. That takes away humility and disturbs people.

And many people are the same, they sound humble at all, Steve doesn't seem humble, Deepak either, most of the boardies don't seem humble to me...

What do we do with this?

[Angela]

I had to look up the word "humble" because I wasn't sure what you were asking:

Except for #4 and possibly (but not certainly) #1, I can't see how any of these would be desirable traits:

1. not proud or arrogant; modest: to be humble although successful.
2. having a feeling of insignificance, inferiority, subservience, etc.: In the presence of so many world-famous writers I felt very humble.
3. low in rank, importance, status, quality, etc.; lowly: of humble origin; a humble home.
4. courteously respectful: In my humble opinion you are wrong.
5. low in height, level, etc.; small in size: a humble member of the galaxy.
–verb (used with object)
6. to lower in condition, importance, or dignity; abase.
7. to destroy the independence, power, or will of.
8. to make meek: to humble one's heart.

[songwriter]

Originally Posted by Angela

I had to look up the word "humble" because I wasn't sure what you were asking:

Except for #4 and possibly (but not certainly) #1, I can't see how any of these would be desirable traits:

1. not proud or arrogant; modest: to be humble although successful.
2. having a feeling of insignificance, inferiority, subservience, etc.: In the presence of so many world-famous writers I felt very humble.
3. low in rank, importance, status, quality, etc.; lowly: of humble origin; a humble home.
4. courteously respectful: In my humble opinion you are wrong.
5. low in height, level, etc.; small in size: a humble member of the galaxy.
–verb (used with object)
6. to lower in condition, importance, or dignity; abase.
7. to destroy the independence, power, or will of.
8. to make meek: to humble one's heart.

I don't think it is a desirable trait, if not I'll probably be humble... that's our problem I think. But it is a thing that disturbs most of the people, and I don't want to go hurting people, that's because I would want to be humble. It's part of alligning with love.

I guess. In my somewhat humble opinion.... (I should say something like this???).

You're not gonna hear Steve or Deepak saying... "In my humble opinion/I think/ I guess..." anything. And that's what makes so many of us hated, cause we hurt people, with our confidence and beliefs.
Or they cause it themselves, but the conflict is there anyway.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by songwriter

But it is a thing that disturbs most of the people, and I don't want to go hurting people, that's because I would want to be humble.

Disturbing people and hurting people are two entirely different things.

In fact, sometimes disturbing people helps them -- some people have a hard time reaching any sort of breakthrough as long as they're comfortable. And some people are going to be disturbed by you, even when you don't think you're being disturbing. If you stop yourself from being fully self-expressed because you don't want to disturb people, you deprive the world of your big, full, beautiful contribution. And I find that rather disturbing.

[songwriter]

Originally Posted by Angela

Disturbing people and hurting people are two entirely different things.

In fact, sometimes disturbing people helps them -- some people have a hard time reaching any sort of breakthrough as long as they're comfortable. And some people are going to be disturbed by you, even when you don't think you're being disturbing. If you stop yourself from being fully self-expressed because you don't want to disturb people, you deprive the world of your big, full, beautiful contribution. And I find that rather disturbing.

Yes, it's an impossible combination, your can't be fully self-expressed and humble, nobody is perfect.
I've thought and not even the religious leaders where humble at all, like Jesus or Buda... and neither Gandhi or MLK...

but many of them were murdered, cause they really were "disturbing" for many people, and hated, you know.

[Life Coach UK]

That's a really interesting question.

Surely the goal is to recognise the innate equality of all things - we are after all part of the all that is! To make yourself less than another in the name of humble is to not recognise who you are.

Most people try to be humble because they fear being arrogant. It's easy to find things that are on the opposite end of the spectrum of "being nice" - such as subservience, passivity and humbleness. These make for a great place to express yourself so as to never be arrogant. But that denies who you are! It's ok to celebrate yourself and feel great about who you are - there is nothing arrogant about that!!

[Angela]

Originally Posted by songwriter

... Jesus or Buda... and neither Gandhi or MLK...

but many of them were murdered, cause they really were "disturbing" for many people, and hated, you know.

Would you have any of those people be or do anything other than what they were or did, so that they could avoid disturbing people or being hated? Should they have toned down their message so that they seemed more like one of the guys?

[Jarrod]

If you are respectful in regards to others people expressed views then I think you are on the right track. You can be confident in your own view while still admitting you don't know everything about the universe.

A thin line between being overzealous and trying to get a message across.