About Massive Action…

[Shamou]

About Massive Action…

The expression "massive action" certainly does stir up passion in these pages… and I believe that this is how it should be… not much soul searching is necessary when everyone agrees…

I have been a strong proponent of the massive action option… and, if I have stepped on some toes, I apologize…

However, there is one element of massive action that has not been exposed and it is the following…

I do believe that a life’s worth is directly proportional to the contribution that this life has brought forth… and I fail to see how someone could contribute massively without taking massive action…

Your impressions and opinions on this matter would be appreciated…
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[Angela]

Originally Posted by Shamou

I do believe that a life’s worth is directly proportional to the contribution that this life has brought forth… and I fail to see how someone could contribute massively without taking massive action…

Shamou, I don't think that it's the term, "massive action" that has raised people's ire so much as your apparent judgement about massive action.

For instance, it would be very easy for a reader to logically infer from your comment above that you judge that someone who doesn't take massive action (or believe that it's necessary) doesn't contribute and is therefore worthless. I'm sure you can see that such an inference would rankle.

You seem to feel very strongly about your beliefs, and you have apparently gotten wonderful results by following them. I'm very happy for you! And I would love for you to see that your arguments sometimes occur as a little oppressive, in that they don't leave a lot of space of freedom. I don't think you mean to, but sometimes your posts sound very "my way or the highway!"

And I believe that it's important to you to inspire people, not to make them take to the road. Right?

[Rose of Cairo]

Originally Posted by Shamou

I do believe that a life’s worth is directly proportional to the contribution that this life has brought forth… and I fail to see how someone could contribute massively without taking massive action…

Your impressions and opinions on this matter would be appreciated…
.

If it's appreciated, here a little example

A friend of mine wanted to program a game for several months, but he was stuck. He had a lot of ideas, but didn't really know why and how and where to begin... so motivation felt. We talked about it for one hour. After this hour he knew why he wanted to make it, he knew what his message is, he knew what he wanted and he even had the whole concept of the game. For me, it wasn't work. It was a funny conversation. I just felt his game, I saw it already, I knew exactly what he had inside of him, and I told him that. I told him what he already knew without seeing it... for me it was just having fun. But he told me I helped him a lot. If some day he makes his game, I will have contributed without massive action! Maybe you think that's not a "great" contribution, but who knows, maybe his game will be great and make a big difference for a lot of people! Or maybe some day I'll be the same kind of creative accoucheuse for someone who will do something that is really big in your eyes

It depends on how you define massive action. Think about healers who put their hands on someone, concentrate on energy and the patient's life changes entirely. This is a great contribution. Is it massive action?

I think from outside it LOOKS LIKE massive action. But if you are guided by your passion and doing what you really are talented for, from inside it doesn't FEEL like massive action, because you just let yourself go with the flow, so you don't feel you're doing a lot. It doesn't even feel like work. It gives you energy instead of costing some. So my opinion is: massive action is not required! (even though others may have the impression that you're working like crazy)

my 2 cts. don't know if this answers your question...

[Zukin]

I like the 80/20 principle. Instead of taking massive action, you perform the small actions that will lead to big results:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle

Here's some articles that cover the 80/20 rule in greater detail:
http://www.stevepavlina.com/articles/do-it-now.htm
http://www.entrepreneurs-journey.com...eto-principle/

[Ree]

Rose, you make an excellent point. I can say that I've seen individuals who have taken massive action and accomplished absolutely nothing. I think we all know people who appear to be amazingly busy....... who get nothing done. Perhaps that could be called action without intention. Not worth much in my opinion.

[Uplift]

Here's as good a place as any Shamou. I have the utmost respect for your achievments. I may not agree with some things you say or think, or may have some differing ideas, but I do respect your achievements, your desire to give, your past and ongoing success in that area. I am genuinely really sad that a situation has occurred. But Shamou where does the line between insult and abuse and help and inspiration lay? In my case I sometimes wish I was like my wife. She wouldn't even react like me. But I am me. And I embrace not standing for it, because in my story, my life, it feels like I should. I have this ridiculous need or want or impulse to help anyone I feel is being abused, or overpowered against their will. I have deliberately insulted you in posts, to give you a taste of your own medicine. And thats not real bright, or anything to be proud of. Its a waste of being. I have spent days and nights feeling bad about what I've said to you.

We all deserve the chance to choose to learn in our own way. Thats one of the beauties of this site to me, a place where I figured it is possible. A sign that the world is on the right track. Your story inspires me, your enforcement of it and dismissal of anyone's different story has the opposite effect.

We all like to be afforded the basic respect of having some intelligence. Intelligent people should be able to see that in a medium like this it can be difficult to back up our stories, and we all have different comfort levels in that area. I wouldn't display my wife. I put a picture of my kids here, and spent weeks freaking about paedophiles. My wife is angry that I showed pictures of one of my houses. I have an extemely impressive build, but won't stand shirtless in underpants to show it. Someone else couldn't care less. You demand this and that from others... where do you draw the line. All of us supplying our financial records, medical histories and photographic evidence. I like to give people credit to make their own judgement and choices.

You like your way and present it, tell your story, give advice, and it is personal choice whether to embrace it and trial it, or whether to do the same in another direction, no matter how way out it seems to you, me, or whoever. I had a workmate who went out of the drawing office to the chiro, had a neck adjustment and who is now paralysed down one side of her face. It was a freak occurrance involving a blood clot. One slight action, by no means massive, impacted massively. I have friends who swear by chiro, who owe their quality of life to it. Should I trample their lives with my belief, my story, and dimiss them as delusional dimwits, just waiting to be paralysed, that I must save?

Tell us about your achievments, your story, they are inspirational. Plenty will want more, and want to embrace them. Some might take what they need, and adapt it to their way. Some might just be inspired. Some might dismiss them. Your example is the important part. And whether others choose to believe you or not is up to them. You know your truth, and like wise for others. I get frustrated if I am not believed. Thats why I risked putting photos on here. I learned and choose to not be shy in talking about my achievments, so say some bold, hard to believe things, that in person would be easy to demonstrate. But we are on the net, and thats got it's limitations.

Bottom line, SORRY. From my heart SORRY. My insults were pitiful, sad, pathetic. TRULY SORRY FOR MY PART IN THIS MESS. I hope it works out for the best.

[Chado2423]

Massive action is only good, if the actions produce beneficial results for yoursef, your friends, your community and society at large.

[seeker5]

Originally Posted by Shamou

I fail to see how someone could contribute massively without taking massive action… Your impressions and opinions on this matter would be appreciated…
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Well, in your situation and in this single case, it seems taking massive action in the wrong way has caused you to not be able to contribute a single bit. Good luck in your next attempt however you choose to contribute.

[rikun]

But how do you take massive action? Sorry, just do it doesn't work for me. I really can't seem to get myself to do anything, I already know what I should ,and what I want to do, but can't seem to get myself to tackle the challenge. The same problem hinders every aspect of my life, I make a good plan and know it's what I want to do. And then I won't do anything. And it makes me feel really bad, always makes my state go down. It's like in my mind I really feel I can't do something, even though I realize I must be able to do it. But still the feeling is there and won't go away.

[valis]

massive action is simple. Sometimes, in fact most frequently, it is not called for. In certain situations, however, there are no other options. Little bit less than a decade ago, I was living on the street with a few habits to support. Now I've got two habits to support (wife and kid) and am a senior systems engineer at an international geophysical company.

How was that accomplished? Certainly not by taking one step at a time. Massive action was called for; either poop (had a bottle of Macallen scotch and about 500 percocets for that option) or get of the can.

I chose the latter, and hit it hard. Still am. But that first few months required massive action on my part, and hardcore belief in myself that I was better than what I had gotten myself into.

To me, at least, it's a fairly simple equation. But then many people haven't had to live that life, and haven't been faced with that choice.

Then again, many have been faced, and have chosen what's behind door number 1.

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