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| I am interested in a really low budget lifestyle, that is really low budget living. But so far, it seem difficult to find such information on the web. Thus far, I read an interesting article about a man with a family in New York living under a ten thousand dollar budget. Here is the link It is pretty cool that you can do with little money in a state like New York. I am interested in other information source about living a minimalist lifestyle. I do have plan to make a decent amount of money(30,000 per years as income as goal by end of 2010) but not with getting a job. So if I can cut my living expenses to under 10,000 dollars, I could have 20,000 dollars in surplus. It could go into research projects, or reducing my ecological footprint further by investing in green technology, and other numerous noble causes. Of course, I could invest the money too but I don't feel like I will retire(I think speeding trends of technology will make retirement unnecessary)
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| Minimalist would easily work with other noble efforts, like low pollution/"no impact" (@ No Impact Man ), and veg(an) lifestyles. |
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| I make more than 30k from home with a bunch of websites and the cost of running this business in both time and money is miniscule. How do you plan to make the 30k?
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| Try googling "downshifting" and "voluntary simplicity". That should get you started...
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I live a very simple life at the moment, but I'm a student so it's not entirely voluntary. But even so, it's a style of life I enjoy and I applaud you for taking an interest in it.
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| Check out the book "Your Money or Your Life." It's all about radically reducing expenses and saving so you can retire at very young age and just do what you want to do with your time. |
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I don't expect to follow the model of other indies developers and successful game developers like Steve Pavlina because my contents and games are well, have a fundamental difference. I allowed other people to modify, redistribute, and sell them without them ever paying me a royalty fee (I tend to view intellectual property with distrust). So no "shareware" model for me. As for others, thank you for giving me resources I can pursue I'll try downshifting and voluntary simplicity in the search engine and read all the links you guys give me. I expect the only things I will ever need to make a living are hosting bills, a good computer, and a good internet connection. So they're really marginal.
__________________ http://libertygaming.blogspot.com Last edited by Kiba : 07-15-2007 at 02:38 PM. |
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| Small House Society, though primarily focused on living in realllly small houses, does have a bunch of info on living cheap; see this speech for more: Living Smaller - Gregory Johnson |
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| Good reads: "The Good Life" by Scott Nearing,Helen Nearing "How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World: A Handbook for Personal Liberty" by Harry Browne.
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| The Simple Living Network has a lot of information you might like. They also have discussion forums. Good luck. I think what you're trying to do is really great!
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| Thank everyone for helping me learn about voluntary simplicity. It is clear to me what I should do in the future. I currently live with my parents, but someday I'll have to live on my own. I want to avoid the unsustainable hyperconsumption lifestyle and culture of many Americans so I am less of a factor to contributing to world harm. EDIT: And thanks for the supportive response.
__________________ http://libertygaming.blogspot.com Last edited by Kiba : 07-17-2007 at 11:57 PM. |
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| Why do you need to look on the web? To live this type of lifestyle the first thing to do is not spend money! From now on everytime you get out your wallet to buy something, ask yourself is there a different way? Of course there is. From here you will start to live this lifestyle and it will develop from there. Good Luck
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| Kiba, you should check out this guy: Ran Prieur He's pretty hardcore about living cheap, if you read the zines he goes into things like squatting and dumpster diving. You may not want to go that far but he's good inspiration, living on something like 5-6k a year. Unfortunately he's recently run into some dental issues it seems that is threatening to wipe out his savings. |
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| I've read Ran Preiur and he is something else. He is very intelligent, articulate, and makes sense. I don't agree with everything he says, but I do believe that the crash of civilization is inevitable. I am a minimalist and I own less than 200 items right now and I do enjoy cutting down on the amount of items I own, and I would recommend it to anyone who wants to give it a try. Good luck in your minimalism. I have some articles on it on my website, link in my signature... |
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| I just started a blog about Minimalism. It has many meanings. It would seem that there is a direct connection to taking care of our planet. At least for me. |
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| I recently grabbed Work Less and Play More by Steven Catlin at the local Really Really Free Market ( Really Really Free Market - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ), where I ended up giving away ~30 books and a unicycle the last time I went. Whatever I no longer use and can easily sell for a good price goes on amazon, and everything else is either given or thrown away (preferably given). Lately I've enjoyed the process of continually simplifying my life and making it more efficiently produce whatever I want. For example, yesterday when I needed to go into town I chose to bicycle the five hilly miles each way rather than drive, enabling me to save gas, get exercise, and experience a great hour or so outside. |
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| I suggest checking out Zen Habits. Albert (I believe is his name) has a lot of great posts about minimalism and living frugally. Here's a good article to start out with: The Cheapskate Guide: 50 Tips for Frugal Living | Zen Habits I'd also recommend this article: Confessions of a Bottom Feeder, Part 1: When Frugality Becomes a Survival Skill Best of luck to you!
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| Wow...this is a great thread. I have been living a minimalist lifestyle for about a decade now, though we can always do more. I find that I meet people while travelling that inspire me. When the thing that is the most important in your life is in jeopardy, you will realize that material goods are not a priority. That is how I felt during my divorce when my visitation and time with my daughter was reduced to a minimum. My greatest inspiration has come from Thoreau - Walden is the ultimate source for taking on the attitude of a minimalist. Ghandi is another famous minimalist, though I'm not suggesting following either of these lifestyles, choose the balance you need. The web has been full of great resources, though I have spent 10 years accumulating websites and tools. Here are a few, unfortunately I have hundreds and can't share them all. I'm working on a green directory, actually two green directories as a project for the year end - they will be listed there eventually. I am situated in Toronto, Canada but these resources are pretty useful. Freegan AND Why Work? Be Green Now AND Best Green Blogs New American Dream OR Planet Friendly TreeHugger AND try Hugg 2.0 All Things Frugal PLUS Frugal Corner The Simple Living Network AND Simply Living One Planet Living AND 100 Ways to Save the Environment Think Simple Now You will note that a lot of these are promoting a green lifestyle, that is because a green lifestyle truly promotes the idea of limiting consumer habits and offers a greater chance of happiness, as many of the people on Steve Pavlina's website have come to seek. I hope I didn't put too many links on here. If I did, tell me how I can change them. NONE OF THEM ARE MINE (oh, except for the two in my signature) but they are all excellent sources to get started. I have hundreds more but I hand chose a few, it took me a little while. Enjoy. Last edited by simplystephen : 02-23-2008 at 04:03 PM. |
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