What Are We Missing?

[Walnutt]

There seems to be one thing, one key component that a lot of us are missing when it comes to "making it"? (I'll keep this related to financial because this is something very measurable, as Steve would say).

So what is that one key thing that seems to elude so many people still? We've watched The Secret, read all we can on the "Laws Of....", have been continuously involved in Self Help for many years but we still haven’t gotten to where we want to be... We probably have pieces of the puzzle - great health, great marriage, etc.. And keeping in mind, financial abundance/freedom doesn't necessarily mean being a millionaire either).

I'd really love to see responses from people that have made it, but only after they too, had to find that "one missing component" and maybe some of them could share what was and how they got it....

Thanks So Much - Walnutt!

[Shamou]

Hello Walnutt...

The one key that is missing for most people is the fact that they did not get the fact that to succeed you have to take "MASSIVE ACTION"...

No work... no results... simple as that... you can take that to the bank... I have made it, as you say... and that's how I did it...

Good luck to you...

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[Nathan]

"Making it" is a pretty open ended term. For some it could mean becoming a millionaire, or having a wife/husband and 2 kids. A single set goal (making it) doesn't really work with me. I prefer to look at it as progressive and infinite growth which contains many different goals. As Shamou said.. lots of work!

[legend]

Walnut, I've found the secrets to be 1. living within your means...
In the financial world that means if you can't pay cash you wait until you can.. The only exception is for a home mortgage (you would have to pay rent anyway) Once I did this I quckly got to that point of making it followed by abundance...
In the health world that means doing what you can if you can only walk once around the block you do it everyday until your means expands to more..
This leads to 2. be consistant you have to choose to follow through
A true decision leaves no other options If you truly decide to do something and stay within your means you will find what you are looking for with the last secret that is..... drum roll... 3. Time... everything grows in time
enjoy where you are set your eyes on where you want to be
and take the ride... Let me tell you it is one hell of a ride
I started where you are and now I am in the best shape of my life, I have no financial worries, I continue to grow in spirit, and now have the chance to help others..

Hope this helps

Much Love

[Angela]

Kind of related to what Legend said, what might be missing for many people is opening your eyes to what is so and being grateful for it. I think a lot of folks are so busy concentrating on what they don't have and want to get that they are blind to what they have. And gratitude nurtures the desirable.

Also, as I've said before, I think people have picked up on the 'getting the stuff' aspect to the exclusion of getting the real feelings that underlie the material desires.

[Shamou]

Originally Posted by Angela

Also, as I've said before, I think people have picked up on the 'getting the stuff' aspect to the exclusion of getting the real feelings that underlie the material desires.

The most important is not "getting the stuff" but the most important is becoming the person that you have to become in order to get the stuff that you want...

The old "be... do... have" formula... that is, you have to become the person who is able to do the things that must be done in order to be able to get the things that you want...

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[Angela]

Right, Shamou. In fact, I would even go further.... if you be the person who could get the stuff, then the stuff is extraneous. You'd already have your heart's desire -- it would be contained in what you're Being.

[Shamou]

Originally Posted by Angela

Right, Shamou. In fact, I would even go further.... if you be the person who could get the stuff, then the stuff is extraneous. You'd already have your heart's desire -- it would be contained in what you're Being.

Funny that when you can finally afford it... you no longer want it...

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[Uplift]

It reminds me of basketball and surfing. There is a surfer named Shawn Briley. A legend of the sport. Never kept fit in the slightest, didn't surf that much, but rode the heaviest waves imaginable, in the most radical way imaginable. He just always believed he was awesome. They dug him up about a year ago, as he dissappeared and hadn't surfed for years. When he heard they were going to Tahiti, to one of the meanest waves around, he wanted to go. Everyone freaked, thinking he would die. After the trip, after he still rode the way he always did, they interviewed him. He said he was awesome, why wouldn't he surf awesomely just because he hadn't surfed for years. He already had, so believed he could, it was all in his mind.

Some beginning basketballers just believe they are good and have no fear. No fear about mistakes, no self conscious restraints. They learn and progress incredibly fast, and end up champions. Oportunities seemingly fall into their lap. Some practise and practise and practise and practise...and practise some more, and finally relax, lose their fear, believe they are worthy, and become champions. The best coaches and teachers have a way of instilling belief, removing fear, relaxing. Some coaches can coach a certain type, and discard many on the way to winning. The best coaches can take those that are discarded, and turn them into champions. I've seen it happen.

I believe that imagination and belief are our reality, our limit. Nothing is missing, anything is possible. If something is or isn't as you want, it is always as you imagine and believe. An old mate of mine bought one lottery ticket his whole life. He was the only winner and won $20,000,000 dollars. One instant empty bank accounts, next instant...anything is possible. Can you or do you want to believe it, imagine it, or what does it take for you to believe and imagine your life...to be or not to be...that is the question.

[Peter S C]

Belief and persistence.

(oops thats 2 things)

[JohnPlace]

I agree with Shamou. The ingredient that most people are missing is action.

And I would add determination, persistence, and education -- not necessarily formal education, but a sharpening of whatever intellectual tools are required to reach your objective.

My whole life, I've been watching people sacrifice positive action on the altar of positive thinking. Unfortunately, most of these people never manage to leave the altar. .

When a person manages to combine positive thinking with positive action, the world opens up for him. And if he finds a way to devote his life to something he loves, stand back.

[Uplift]

Originally Posted by JohnPlace

I agree with Shamou. The ingredient that most people are missing is action.

And I would add determination, persistence, and education -- not necessarily formal education, but a sharpening of whatever intellectual tools are required to reach your objective.

My whole life, I've been watching people sacrifice positive action on the altar of positive thinking. Unfortunately, most of these people never manage to leave the altar. .

When a person manages to combine positive thinking with positive action, the world opens up for him. And if he finds a way to devote his life to something he loves, stand back.

This discussion is thought provoking. Pharaohs created pyramids, yet never raised a drop of sweat. George Bush creates wars, but never picks up a gun, and couldn't 'pull the skin off a rice pudding'. The world is also full of millions of examples of incredible feats of action and willpower, leading to personal mysery, disaster, poverty, and even death, while the thinkers, the believers and non action takers reap the rewards.

The situation poses the time old question, was the very first thing, whatever it was or is, created by action, or thought or what? So how was the first... whatever... created, that then made possible the first action. It would seem there is something much more important than action, without which action wouldn't even exist, and which requires no action to exist and create. Imagination and belief maybe.

[Brutha]

Originally Posted by Uplift

This discussion is thought provoking. Pharaohs created pyramids, yet never raised a drop of sweat. George Bush creates wars, but never picks up a gun, and couldn't 'pull the skin off a rice pudding'. The world is also full of millions of examples of incredible feats of action and willpower, leading to personal mysery, disaster, poverty, and even death, while the thinkers, the believers and non action takers reap the rewards.

Just because you don't see they action that someone takes doesn't mean that e takes no action.

Building those countless relationships that you need to get president takes action.

In addition both thinks are expressions of culture, instead of expressions of single human beings.
No pharaoh was able to build no pyramid. The agypt culture demanded that it gets build.

[Uplift]

So the question, was the very first thing, whatever it was or is, created by action, or thought or what? So how was the first... whatever... created, that then made possible the first action?

[Shamou]

Originally Posted by JohnPlace

I agree with Shamou. The ingredient that most people are missing is action.

And I would add determination, persistence, and education -- not necessarily formal education, but a sharpening of whatever intellectual tools are required to reach your objective.

My whole life, I've been watching people sacrifice positive action on the altar of positive thinking. Unfortunately, most of these people never manage to leave the altar. .

When a person manages to combine positive thinking with positive action, the world opens up for him. And if he finds a way to devote his life to something he loves, stand back.

Hello John...

This post should be tattooed just above the navel of every LoA fundamentalist so that they could see it while they are repeating mantras as they stare at their belly button...

Excellent post John...

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[JohnPlace]

Originally Posted by Uplift

This discussion is thought provoking. Pharaohs created pyramids, yet never raised a drop of sweat.

A Pharaoh did not build the pyramids on his own. A multitude of workers built the pyramids with physical labor. It was hard work. The pharoah did not simply bring the pyramids into being with the power of his mind.

George Bush creates wars, but never picks up a gun, and couldn't 'pull the skin off a rice pudding'.

Once again, George Busch (and others) have the power to order a war, but the war itself is the result of a political machine created by human beings (of which Busch is part of) and of the hard-earned action of the men and women on the battle field.

The world is also full of millions of examples of incredible feats of action and willpower, leading to personal mysery, disaster, poverty, and even death, while the thinkers, the believers and non action takers reap the rewards.

To me, the world is not nearly as mysterious and mystic as many people around here would suppose.

[Brutha]

Originally Posted by Uplift

So the question, was the very first thing, whatever it was or is, created by action, or thought or what? So how was the first... whatever... created, that then made possible the first action?

Thought and action are both concepts that only have meaning in relationship to conscious beings.
You don't need any of it for a big bang that results from quantum fluctuations (sure their are also other possible explanations).
You don't need a god that thinks or acts, to explain a beginning. (the fact this is the only explantion some unfortuate people do understand is no argument for need of action or thought)

[JohnB23]

I would say the missing ingredient (for 98% of people) is a lack of focus.

Say you could rewind your life...and go back to "day 1".

Your focus on day 1 would be...I want to be a millionaire. And then starting on day 1...how could you fail?

On the first day, I'd run out, get a computer, learn some skills. I'd come up with a long reading list. I'd learn about marketing, sales, real estate, the financial markets. And then start doing things. And then get some momentum and velocity.

Why wait around for 10-15-20 years, with your confidence going up and down, going through all these distractions, tv distractions, commercials, you have to move, you have to do all these things. Why spend 90% of your day doing things you don't care about?

Most people wait around. They don't have a choice of where they are educated (k through 12th grade). They go through 12-14 years of school and the expectation is minimum wage (or a little better). And then another 4 years of school (and an enormous amount of debt). And then you realize after all that, you're not even close to where you want to be.

It'd be like starting in Los Angeles, traveling to Chicago, taking a bunch of back roads and detours, and then realizing you really want to be in Texas or Louisiana.

And it's not just thinking. You can't travel by thinking alone. You need routes and then you need action.

[AndyMartin]

Three things are necessary, and three things alone. Three things that are found in every great story. The first is clarity of purpose: You must know exactly what you want and leave no room for doubting. Second, a total commitment to success: You must want it more than anything other competing desire. Finally, you must take unequivocal responsibility for every aspect of attaining that desire: You must act on that desire even when you are not experiencing it as dominant; you must own every success, every failure, every opportunity missed or acted upon, every single thing; there is no room for the victim mentality, for the ungrateful mind, for surrender or denial.

And really...isn't the law of attraction teaching just that? Sure it's gussied up in new age clothing and we're a long way from establishing any factual accuracy regarding the metaphysical decorations. But the basic model is simply those three principles: No different from what you'll hear from Trump, Buffet, or the biography of great achievers and wealth-builders.

[Uplift]

The situation poses the time old question, was the very first thing, whatever it was or is, created by action, or thought or what? So how was the first... whatever... created, that then made possible the first action. It would seem there is something much more important than action, without which action wouldn't even exist, and which requires no action to exist and create. Imagination and belief maybe.

Quote by Brutha after giving the definitive, scientific answer, '(sure their are also other possible explanations)'. JohnB23, full of certainty, champions action, but abandons ship at the last minute, and wait ...'no, its focus'. Shamou...in the vein of yet another hollywood epic...'Oh my God!!! Man down!!!'

Now we get a sense of what the likes of Roger Bannister faced. He had to oppose the scientists and experts of the day, as well as the coaches and officials of the day, the Shamous, JohnB23's, Brutha's and rest of the milling pack, who all waited with baited breath, praying he would fail, with his 'ridiculous grandiose idea', and 'feeble training methods'. What a ludicrous waste of... life. You would think people would love to see someone do the impossible...but instead the pattern repeats...'mummy can I climb in your lap, its scary', or 'if enough of us band together we'll be right, wont we'?

Now, if the question is too big and hard to sink your teeth into, and you just can't get a grasp of it, you have my deepest sympathy. I haven't the remotest concept of what you are feeling and going through, but hey, all my sympathy to you. Who would have thought it eh... all bark and no bite!!! What was that breed of dog you've modelled yourself on Shamou... a Miniature Canadian Hairless?

[1000feet]

Going back to the original topic, I think one of the big reasons that most people here aren't immediately recognizable as "success stories" is that the forum attracts a lot of people who are just learning these ideas. I've seen people still trying to understand them, people who've got the basics but need time to apply them, and people who have actually achieved some degree of success and provide advice for others.

I don't think there will ever be a time when most people here are in the third group, because any success will attract more people wanting to learn.

[Uplift]

The point is, western schooling tells the Roger Bannisters, Bill Gate's, Richard Bransons, Amma's... (got a few weeks to compile the list) no! It is only when they oppose and break free of the western eduction system that they achieve 'belief defying', 'miraculous', 'well what do you know' success.

[1000feet]

Uplift, that's a nice story for the inspirational books but the truth is that those people are far above average; regardless of what they may or may not have gotten out of schooling, you can't say there's one thing holding everyone back from being like them. If everyone was a millionaire tomorrow most people would be poor and a few would gain influence by selling hyper-inflation insurance with bartered goods. Long before western schooling existed most people spent their lives barely finding or growing enough food for their families; long after it's changed there will still be a select few who lead thousands and a great many who follow and are rewarded with just enough to take care of themselves.