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Old 05-23-2007, 02:39 PM
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O.K. I have to say that my journey in personal growth came as a result of wanting more in my life, and that idea started with primarily more money to enjoy "different" things in my life that I haven't so far. Not "better" I've learned, just different.

I've taken the time to make a plan for what I want. I've looked at the beliefs that have been holding me back from manifesting money and I've made huge strides in the last year or so.

Recently, I tested the universe somewhat and put myself in a bad financial situation so I could really be forced to dig deep and see what might be holding me back and I learned a lot. I was and still am "making my decisions based on whether I wanted the experience, not on whether or not I could afford the experience" to quote Esther and Jerry Hicks.

What happened was that I ended up taking out another loan and I was looking at it as a failure b/c I was unable to manifest the "income" in time to not have to. My husband pointed out to me that actually, the loan is still a form of abundance. The universe is still providing for me, it's just that it's in a different form than actual money.

This was a break through for me. But now, I'd like to focus on manifesting a positive amount in my account. I know I need to focus on being financially free and to me that means no more loans. I know I can't focus on the loan and need to focus on financial freedom, realizing "I have everything I need right here right now". I know this, but it's been difficult. I find myself CONSTANTLY catching my thoughts and then changing the negativity and obviously, there's something blocking my manifestation. It seems even though I say the words, I don't believe it. Does anyone have any suggestions or do I just need to give it all time? I read that there isn't any such thing as patience, b/c then your admitting/believing that you don't already have what you're trying to manifest.

Deep down, I should be o.k. with loans etc., b/c if there's enough financial abundance, then who cares about fees etc. None of it's real. The Universe is providing for me it's just not in the form I had envisioned. Is this correct?
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This is so simple, but I've found it to be very valuable. Take a piece of paper and write "I want to (whatever), BUT......."

Then you complete that sentence, over and over, til you're sure there's nothing left (it's important that you just write quickly, not just do it in your mind). Sometimes the REAL reason flashes into your mind just as you put your pen down.

You write everything that pops into your mind, no matter how "stupid" or "silly" it seems. If you write quickly there's less time for judgment-lol

This is a form I hand out to my weight loss patients at my clinic. Obviously, if you want something but you're "not there" yet, there is one or more barriers. Some of them may be simple physical, logistical things. Generally though the most powerful barriers are subconscious memories or thoughts that seem to make no sense to you now. However, til you recognize them and deal with them, they're still active in your subconscious, driving your results.

Hope this helps!
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Consider the essence of money... This video is 47 minutes long, but well worth the financial/economic education you'll get from it.

Money as Debt -- Geld als Schuld (deutsche Untertitel) - Google Video
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I've been playing with manifesting actual money for about 5 months now. Instead of just trying to get it from the 'usual' sources I've been feeling it coming directly to me from all sources. For most of this time I've noticed that instead of money directly being manifested I've been manifesting directions to create money - kind of like seeds. Now in the last 4 weeks many of these seeds have started growing. It really reminds me of something that Esther Hicks said about how often its on its way. I got to say though there were some major limiting beliefs and doubts to work through just before some of those seeds broke open.
I'm learning to just saturate myself in as much positive energy, books, audio, music, speakers - and just keep going.
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This is so simple, but I've found it to be very valuable. Take a piece of paper and write "I want to (whatever), BUT......."

Then you complete that sentence, over and over, til you're sure there's nothing left (it's important that you just write quickly, not just do it in your mind). Sometimes the REAL reason flashes into your mind just as you put your pen down.


Hope this helps!
Okay, let's say you get a list that looks like below. What then?

I want to have lots of money BUT

I am afraid

I don’t really want it because I am fine without it.

Money sucks

Money is evil

Money corrupts people

Money is wrong

Money is dirty

Money is fun

Money is sexual

Money rocks

I can’t find it in me

It isn’t anywhere to be found

I can’t have it because no one will like me
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I'd go through your list, take all the limiting beliefs out (you have some positive beliefs in there around money, too) and challenge each of these limiting beliefs.

Like your last one, that people won't like you if you're rich. Well, there will always be people who will resent you - it might be because you have money, it might be because you have a good job, it might be because you're talented, it might be because you're wearing red shoes today.

The truth is, even though there are probably some people who don't like them, rich people have friends. Often their friends are other rich people. Having friends and being liked isn't about how much money you have, it's about who you are.

So now you've come up with exceptions to this particular belief. Now you know it's not universally true.

Ask yourself why this should come up as a true belief for you if it doesn't apply to other people? There really is no reason.

I think once you've challenged each of these beliefs, you can then work on rewording them into positive beliefs and focus on incorporating these new beliefs as habitual ways of thinking.
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learningtogrow,

I have had a very similar experience. A few things that have helped me is to set up money rules and tweak them until I can follow them to the T.

One of my newer money game rules is that I am now on a cash only system. I know how much I need to survive and pay my bills each pay period, so when I get paid, I take out as much cash as I've forecasted for this month's expenses.

I pay for my daily expenses with cash and my Jar expenses with a debit card, because that forces me to only use money I already have. (I use the money jars system.)

It's been a lot more fun than I thought it would since I play it like a game and keep my eyes open for good deals. I'm surprised that even when I think I've overspent for this period, I often end up with leftovers! (I usually take out $175, just enough for $3.50 a meal, and have ended up with as much as $80 leftover.)

A few cool things have happened because of this. Since I've shown the universe that I'm sticking to my money rules, it's been providing the things that I wanted in other ways. For instance, I wanted to sign up with a particularly cool course. I thought it would be fun, but didn't have the $7,000 for it. I stuck to my rules rather than taking out a loan.

Two months later, I find that I'm going to be at that course assisting the teachers as staff and they are going to pay me!

Another thing that I've found massively useful in changing my limiting money beliefs is doing the Wallet Process from Esther Hicks' book "Ask and it is Given" (Actually, I think that process created much bigger, quicker change and helped my money game more than I at first realized)

Go for it!
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Since I've shown the universe that I'm sticking to my money rules, it's been providing the things that I wanted in other ways."

Thanks so much for the input. However, I'm confused as to why someone needs to prove anything to the universe by sticking to rules? I read the 10 illusions of Man from Conversations with God, and one of them was that there's no need to "do" anything. "Requirements do not exist".

Does anyone understand this any better?

I've struggled with playing by "the rules" and recently thrown caution to the wind and believe there's enough abundance out there that I don't need to be a tight wad. Just having trouble getting the bank account on the positive side at the moment. I do believe though that it'll happen. Am I on the right track?

P.S. What's the wallet process?
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When trying to manifest money, instead of thinking about the dollar amount you would like to manifest, try visualizing the end result of what you want. Be clear and certain that it will arrive.

Lets say you want to manifest $1000. What would you do with the money? Put it in the bank? If so visualize this additional $1000 in your bank account. Post a bank statement on a vision board with this additional money.

Now the money won't magically apprear (sorry), but what will appear is something out of the ordinary. Maybe a giant refund, opportunities or ideas to make extra money. Money... as you may have heard this before, is the means to an end. Visualize the "end". Be clear, grateful and certain it will arrive, then be on the lookout. Worked for me. Got $6000 unexpectedly last Decemer 2006!
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O.K. I have to say that my journey in personal growth came as a result of wanting more in my life, and that idea started with primarily more money to enjoy "different" things in my life that I haven't so far. Not "better" I've learned, just different.

I've taken the time to make a plan for what I want. I've looked at the beliefs that have been holding me back from manifesting money and I've made huge strides in the last year or so.

Recently, I tested the universe somewhat and put myself in a bad financial situation so I could really be forced to dig deep and see what might be holding me back and I learned a lot. I was and still am "making my decisions based on whether I wanted the experience, not on whether or not I could afford the experience" to quote Esther and Jerry Hicks.

What happened was that I ended up taking out another loan and I was looking at it as a failure b/c I was unable to manifest the "income" in time to not have to. My husband pointed out to me that actually, the loan is still a form of abundance. The universe is still providing for me, it's just that it's in a different form than actual money.

This was a break through for me. But now, I'd like to focus on manifesting a positive amount in my account. I know I need to focus on being financially free and to me that means no more loans. I know I can't focus on the loan and need to focus on financial freedom, realizing "I have everything I need right here right now". I know this, but it's been difficult. I find myself CONSTANTLY catching my thoughts and then changing the negativity and obviously, there's something blocking my manifestation. It seems even though I say the words, I don't believe it. Does anyone have any suggestions or do I just need to give it all time? I read that there isn't any such thing as patience, b/c then your admitting/believing that you don't already have what you're trying to manifest.

Deep down, I should be o.k. with loans etc., b/c if there's enough financial abundance, then who cares about fees etc. None of it's real. The Universe is providing for me it's just not in the form I had envisioned. Is this correct?
Hi learningtogrow,
It may be too late but I do love to say something about your first post about manifesting actual money.
You did a very good job in avoiding concentrating on “Loan” and continually changing your thoughts in favour of what you intend to manifest.
You did well by practicing the good exercise suggested by maclinda and BelleEnchanted helped you with more suggestions.
If it still did not help maybe either you may not have been grateful for what you already have and for that you are intending to manifest or you may not have been using well what you did receive: the loan.
Being grateful for what we have allows us to have more. Being grateful for what we intend to manifest makes it real and opens the door for its actual manifestation.

In your manifestation process how do you want the money you asked for to come to you? Through some work on your part or just from thin air? If it is through your own work then maybe there is a lesson to be learned from using loans. Do you use loans well? If you consider getting the loan as the first step of your manifestation, unless it was always easy for you to get loans in the past, then the next step may be to invest the money from the loan well in order to produce more money for you!
The best answers to our problems come from within and I think maclinda and BelleEnchanted gave you a good way to find out from within.
However, some of your beliefs may not be helpful to you. For example if you really believe "Requirements do not exist", then what can you do? Thinking and working in order to get something is a requirement. Stop doing it and you will see!
I agree with you that some so called requirements are not universal and only some people try to make them so. For example I do not believe in “Give and you shall receive” many people are talking about and even teaching. I just do not think there is “someone” out there making sure everyone who gives receives more of the same or something else just because of his/her giving. This is not a universal requirement. I go by “you create your own reality through your chosen thoughts and actions/inactions”!

Another popular requirement is: "Ask and it is Given". This one is OK but to make it work we have to learn the best way to ask in order to get what we want. That is one of the reasons why we are on this Personal Development Forum! And I am grateful we learn a lot from one another!
Still believe “requirements do not exist”? Then why do you want to manifest things in the first place? Why are you on this Forum?
Is it not because you believe that "if you do this you will get that"? Is this not a requirement?

Good meditation!

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My husband pointed out to me that actually, the loan is still a form of abundance. The universe is still providing for me, it's just that it's in a different form than actual money.
My god. This scares me. How many people actually have this thought process? A loan is not abundance. A loan is debt. It can help you. It can be beneficial. It is still debt.

The thing I hate about LOA and similar ideas is it's like this:

Person A-"You can have anything you want by wanting it and being positive."

Person B-"How do I start?"

Person A-"You must rid negative thoughts completely out of your head."

Person B-"What if I'm poor?"

Person A-"You must believe you are not poor."

Person B-"What if I stay poor?"

Person A-"You must believe you are getting richer"

Person B-"What if LOA fails?"

Person A-"It won't. You must believe that it won't fail."

So basically, for LOA to work, you have to convince yourself that it works and that is working regardless of your circumstances.

You keep getting poorer and the LOA keeps working for you (in your mind), because you've agreed to believe in it 100%. I don't want to hate on people's system, especially if it's working for them, but how do I know if it's working for them if they're going to convince themselves of their success one way or another? It seems like this line of reasoning is destructive as people will stop providing value (that in turn gets them real value) and instead wait on the universe to provide them their welfare check. Am I completely missing the point?
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You keep getting poorer and the LOA keeps working for you (in your mind), because you've agreed to believe in it 100%. I don't want to hate on people's system, especially if it's working for them, but how do I know if it's working for them if they're going to convince themselves of their success one way or another?
The mistake you are making here, is assuming that the LOA can only attract good things to you. You can attract scarcity, just as you can attract abundance. Indeed, attracting abundance is not an easy thing to do. If it were, we wouldn't need these forums, would we?

If you keep getting poorer and poorer, this is a danger sign. In the LOA system, it is a sign that you're manifesting scarcity.

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It seems like this line of reasoning is destructive as people will stop providing value (that in turn gets them real value) and instead wait on the universe to provide them their welfare check.
But the universe is not a welfare company. It is more like a mirror - you get what you give. Remember what LOA stands for? "Law of Attraction". If you wait and do nothing, then you're attracting a reality which waits and does nothing.

Now let us look at the statement which started this interesting discussion:
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My husband pointed out to me that actually, the loan is still a form of abundance. The universe is still providing for me, it's just that it's in a different form than actual money.
Is a loan really a form of abundance? To a degree, it is. Loans are a very powerful financial tool. Of-course, like any other tool, loans must be used with care. Use it foolishly, and you end up in a worse situation than you've started with.

But then again, the same is true for good ol' cash. Give the average joe a million dollars, and he'll probably use them to corrupt and destroy his life. Abundance of any kind gives you power, and playing with power requires responsibility.

So if I were in the shoes of LearningToGrow, I would have seen the loan as a message from the universe: "You've been given the power. Use it wisely".
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If you keep getting poorer and poorer, this is a danger sign. In the LOA system, it is a sign that you're manifesting scarcity.
I think you missed my point. People that practice LOA will tell you that you can't focus on your circumstances or you will continue to manifest them.

So getting poorer and poorer would be a danger sign if you weren't actively trying to ignore it.

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But the universe is not a welfare company. It is more like a mirror - you get what you give. Remember what LOA stands for? "Law of Attraction". If you wait and do nothing, then you're attracting a reality which waits and does nothing.
I was under the impression that you could get whatever you wanted with your thoughts, but I suppose I could be wrong. What you're describing, a "mirror" that reflects the amount of effort you put into things with results, sounds less like LOA and more like something I like to call REALITY.
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I think you missed my point. People that practice LOA will tell you that you can't focus on your circumstances or you will continue to manifest them.
That's true. And the key word here is focus. If you focus on how pennyless you are, you are manifesting scracity. If you want to manifest abundance, you'll need to focus on something other than your current financial situation. There are many ways to do this without going down the course of denial:

You can focus on the value you give other people. You can focus on the fact that most abundance in the universe doesn't come in the form of money. Or you can focus on the fact that you can attract money with the right thoughts and/or actions. The list of possibilities is endless.


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Getting poorer and poorer would be a danger sign [only] if you weren't actively trying to ignore it.
True, but only because denial is such a terrible strategy when the LOA is concerned.

The reason is simple:

If you're focusing on being pennyless and define this state as "being rich and successful", you'll think everything is perfectly fine. So basically, you're sending the universe a message of "all is well". And the result: you're stuck.

As the saying goes: Be careful what you wish for. Playing tricks of denial on your own mind is a guranteed way to attract things you don't want.


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I was under the impression that you could get whatever you wanted with your thoughts, but I suppose I could be wrong.
You were right. The tricky part is finding the correct thoughts to manifest the correct things. It isn't as easy as it looks. It is actually much more difficult to change your state of mind then it is to do hard manual labor. That's one reason why most people spend their entire lives without consciously manifesting anything. If it were as easy as asking a wish from a genie, everyone would be doing it (and the world would be in utter chaos )

So if you looked for the LOA as an easy fix, you're in for a disappointment.


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What you're describing, a "mirror" that reflects the amount of effort you put into things with results, sounds less like LOA and more like something I like to call REALITY.
What matters is not the amount of "effort", but the coherence and direction of your thoughts. Just like a mirror which simply shows your image as it is, the universe is a reflection of your thoughts.
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