how to live as if you already have it

[learningtogrow]

In a podcast by Erin, she said you have to show/prove to the Universe that what you're asking for is what you truly desire. She likens it to placing an order in a fast food restaurant. To prove that you truly want financial abundance, you need to spend within your limits, and not be irresponsible going into further debt etc... I also understand that you should be the person that you want to be. If I am living like a person with money, wouldn't I spend it without regard for going into further debt? Wouldn't spending freely without fear of where the money is going to come from for your next bills be the answer? I feel as though when I don't spend money, the reason I am doing so is from fear that it will run out eventually and I will go further and further into debt.

[Antiventurecapital]

Conversely,

Base your decisions on where you are going not on where you are. - James Arthur Ray

[judge45]

This whole belief that you must earn the respect of the universe or that you need permission from something bigger than you is starting to not gel with me.

It all comes back to the 'I'm afraid I'm not in control' situation, that you can have whatever you want, but only when the universe/god/source/whatever feels like it.

Any kind of thought that you can't ultimately have what you want within time, means you're a puppet with control outside of yourself.

I don't like that.

In means we can't take full responsibilty for our lives as we only have partial control.

Seems like a cop out on the highest level

Jeff

[Beautiful Future]

I read an article of Steve's not so long back, where he said something like that in order to make his mind believe that he was rich, he'd gotten used to carrying much bigger sums of cash around with him (I don't remember him saying anything about spending it though).

Since I'd rather my money gathered interest instead of dust, and the simple act of standing next to the ATM in my part of the UK shouts 'Rob me!', I didn't think this idea very practical for me. Then I figured I'd just act like The Queen, who carries nothing If there's a reason why the growing stash in your savings account should attract less than the static bundle in your pocket, then I don't see it.

[Erin Pavlina]

Originally Posted by learningtogrow

If I am living like a person with money, wouldn't I spend it without regard for going into further debt? Wouldn't spending freely without fear of where the money is going to come from for your next bills be the answer?

No. If you want financial abundance instead of debt you will live like a person who lives within their means. Not a person who spends more than they have. A person with financial abundance does not spend more than they have. They spend comfortably within their means. And as their income increases, their spending increases but still within comfortable limits.

[OldTex]

Law of Attraction works... you align yourself up with your intentions, in this case more income. To do this, you need to feel as if you have a larger income. Emotions must be in alignment with what you want..

I like the book "Ask and It is Given" because of the sets of processes designed to help you align with what you are manifesting.

It works.

[learningtogrow]

Erin wrote: A person with financial abundance does not spend more than they have. They spend comfortably within their means.

Doesn't financial abundance mean that you don't have to worry about money? I'm not going crazy spending. For a simple example..... I have clothes, but their old (REALLY old and outdated). I don't NEED clothes, but it sure would be nice to buy something sorta new in the last 5 years. I certainly don't have the income I'd like at the moment. I've been controlled by the fear of not having enough money my whole life. I feel if I really want to eliminate the fear of going broke, I stop worrying about where the money will come from. Does that make any sense? If I were to live within my means at the moment, I would not be buying anything but food right now and I feel like that keeps me in a place of fear. Do I just need to align my thinking like "I have everything I could possibly need, including money, so there's no need to spend?" I feel if this is the case, that I'm going to really really need to dig deep to believe it. Possible, but a much more difficult route. If I had money (like I supposedly do in my thoughts), I'd replace a few things that REALLY could use replacing.

Old Tex wrote: Law of Attraction works... you align yourself up with your intentions, in this case more income. To do this, you need to feel as if you have a larger income.

Are you saying to believe I have the money and spend it? Once again, not spending crazily (once a bargain shopper, always a bargain shopper), but just not living with the fear that if I spend $100 on clothes, that money could've been used to pay my gas bill and just letting life take it's course. No worries?
P.S. I am actively working towards more income. It just hasn't manifested itself yet.

[judge45]

No. If you want financial abundance instead of debt you will live like a person who lives within their means.

No, that's not right because it sounds like you have a master who is controlling you saying "I will only give you lots of money if you stop wasting it"
or "I will never give you more until you make do with what you have"

That's a system of fear being instilled over you by some magically mean spirited universe or god.

Also how do you define financial abundance? Steady income with a nice nestegg? or $5M in cash in the bank?

I know people who are millionaires (like $65M and $330M worth) and they waste money on the stupidest of things and they continue to make millions.

You can have it all, just stop thinking you're not the center of the universe. You are the center, without you it doesn't matter. It takes courage to not be fearful of your power.

Jeff

[Conan Stevens]

Maybe you should look further afield and see what other, more established, more experienced people say about the matter.

See what applies to your situation. Reading the book Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki might be a good start for you. It talks about the difference of how the rich save their money to spend on income producing assets, while the poor waste their money and live beyond their means.

There are plenty of other opinions out there. I for example have my own opinions too.

[hotwired]

What I've found helpful is to just keep reading opinion after opinion and book after book. Why? Because there are so many different ways to look at everything, so many interpretations. It is all pointing to just one truth, so to speak, but we have well installed "filters" that interpret everything. So the more we read, or listen to, the more we can overcome these filters and grab that nugget of truth.

As far as LOA, it really boils down (imho) to the "sponsoring thought". The thought behind the thought behind the thought. The final belief supporting the belief system. What are you "saying" to the universe via your thoughts, feelings, words and actions? The key is have a sense of abundance or freedom with money in this case. So, if you carry $500 instead of $25 and it makes you feel irresponsible or nervous, stop it and do somethng else. Ask and it is given mentions often that we cannot "jump" too many levels. IF we are at a level "3" emotionally and spiritually around money, we cannot simply leap over to level "9" or "10" . we have to climb up onto a 4, grunt and shove our way up to a 5, take a breather, hoist up to a 6 and so forth.

[ÜberDan]

Hi Judge45,

I can see why you would think this but it really depends on your individual meaning behind the words you use. When I reference the words God and Universe it refers to a part of me, it is not a seperate entity although I do consider it a higher power. It is inner strength, guidance that appears when you least expect it, in asking from the universe I am in fact resolving inner conflicts and trying to balance myself. I can't remember who said a balanced inner world is reflected into a more balanced outer world.

All the best, Dan

Originally Posted by judge45

This whole belief that you must earn the respect of the universe or that you need permission from something bigger than you is starting to not gel with me.