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Old 01-03-2007, 08:45 AM
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I usually work self employed as a Personal Trainer up untill recently where recovery from shoulder surgery kept me out for a bit, i did the "normal" thing i suppose and looked to work at a health food store. Now i went there yesterday for the first day and called up to say i wont be back. I just cant stand anyone telling me what to do, my hours and duties being dictated to me - that are tedious and boring. I kind of needed the money but i don't want to do something that makes me unhappy to get it. I hate the feeling of waking up and not wanting to go to work. People tell me everyone goes through it but that doesn't make it right. I think maybe i should go back to my pursuit of making money online via affilliate programmes, because being employed just isnt for me
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Old 01-03-2007, 11:05 AM
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Maybe it might not be a good idea to make a conclusion so fast.

To some extent, you have to think that you are workign for yourself, instead of thinking you are working for other people.

Of course, at the end, we work to help others accomplish their task so maybe a change of thinking will help. Just as mary Poppins says, " a spoonful of sugar makes everything go down."

Of course, on the other hand, we absolutely want to make ourselves comfortable, and if youc an't convince yourself on it, then don't do it.
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Well, that's fine if you don't HAVE to have the money, take the time and create something you enjoy. However, if you have to support yourself and/or others, you may want to consider working at a job that you don't LOVE to pay the bills for now, I think the responsibility to provide comes before your need to be happy, kwim?? Perhaps something part-time to pay the bills while allowing you to work on your ideal income plans??
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In regards to working for someone else, I feel the same way as you do.

However I had a heart to heart with my dad about not wanting to work for someone else, and he looked me square in the eye and said

"You need to learn how to deal with conflict"

That was a gut check for me. I still don't enjoy working for someone else, in fact I feel ill most days I go to work. However it provides cash flow so I can have a living.

Until my other revenue streams produce a cash flow to support my lifestyle. I'll be working for someone else. It sucks and I feel like a failure but beats moving back in with my parents, being homeless or living off the state.
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Me too. Planning for my exit from the rat race, but not until I've enough savings to sustain myself for at least a year without working.

Few months back, I found a great video by Jim Rohn on YouTube, there's this part of the speech that I really liked.

"Profits are better than wages... Wages make you a living. Profits
make you a fortune. And how could you work on both, a living and a
fortune? He said well, you could start part time working on your
fortune while you're working full time on your living. I thought
wow. Now he said. It's fun to get up in the morning. Not just
getting up, go to work to pay the rent but to get up to go to work
to make a fortune...".

Perhaps a slight change in mindset can bring more fun to the job, eh.
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I hear you loud and clear Thread Starter, but most of us have bills to pay that make employment necessary, at least until we can create a better alternative.
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There are some people who are not cut out to be employees and you may be one of them.

However, it seems with most success that the ability to work with others is important and that could be something valuable that these interim jobs could give you.
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I hear you loud and clear Thread Starter, but most of us have bills to pay that make employment necessary, at least until we can create a better alternative.
I cant imagine a better way to motivate you to create that alternative than quitting your job...
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I went to a seminar where the speaker was explaining how she ended up starting her first business. She explained that employment wasn't for her. She'd get a job, and see the boss/manager taking 3-4 hour lunch breaks,

"And," she said, "I'm like, hey, 'Monkey see, monkey do!' I'd get back after lunch and they'd be like, 'Where have you been?'"
"Where have you been?"
"That's none of your business!"
And I'm like, "Ditto!"

So I got home that night after being fired... again... and my dad's like, 'You've got to start your own business, because nobody else is going to hire you.'"

Sounds like you're in a similar situation. May it turn out as well for you as it did for her.
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I just cant stand anyone telling me what to do, my hours and duties being dictated to me - that are tedious and boring. I kind of needed the money but i don't want to do something that makes me unhappy to get it. I hate the feeling of waking up and not wanting to go to work. People tell me everyone goes through it but that doesn't make it right. I think maybe i should go back to my pursuit of making money online via affilliate programmes, because being employed just isnt for me
I'd like to second Steve's "congrats!". It's good to see someone like myself on this forum. Us free spirits are not very common these days. There're plenty of ways to make money without the life sucking time wasting activity that people call a "job" and I'm sure you'll figure something out. There're a lot of people who'll make up excuses for why it's necessary to have a job, but in reality it's totally unnecessary. The longest amount I've had a job for after college was four months. That was more than enough time for me to realize that it's not the kind of life I want to live.

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No one HAS to work a job, they choose to work a job. If your choice is to be employed and work for someone else, then you have to realize that you are selling your time to your employer. If you sell your time, then you get what they think your time is worth. If your choice is to work for yourself, then make a decision to just do it. There are a million ways to make a million dollars and live the life you really want. Find people who are doing what you want to do and making money from doing it and learn what they do. Success is duplicatable. Stepping out and starting a company takes faith. But anything you can see yourself doing well, you can do and succeed at. Remember one very important point though... You get EXACTLY what you expect. If you expect to fail, you will... If you expect to succeed and failure is not an option, then you will.
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I'm broke as hell and busting my ass to start something on my own- actually, several somethings. I, also, can't work for someone else, and there's no shame in that. Some of us...the lucky few, I think...are made to do our own thing. We have the inclination to put it all on the line and just do it.

Others have an employee mentality, meaning that they don't truly see that YOU are the thing of value in this whole equation. Yes, learning how to deal with conflict is crucial, but real conflict management means that both parties are happy in the end...not that one party is still pulling the puppet strings, and the other is dancing on the end, medicating thier ulcers all the while. That's not conflict management. That's admitting that someone else has control over you, and that you have no say. And I find that that's exactly what management wants out of employees. I've attempted many times to reason with people and show them ways to make more money for everyone involved, but they were so concerned with not rocking the boat and being "good" that the ideas were completely shoved to the wayside.

Now, then. That being said, I don't know if you have kiddies to worry about. If you do, then that's one of the very few reasons that you should work for someone else if you have to. I, personally, find the urgency of impending poverty a great motivator. It's why I'm setting up several blogs and a website, plus an Ebay business.

It always makes me wonder how you can really sink yourself into a business while giving 100% to another company. That makes no sense. It's a message to yourself that you don't trust in your own ability to support yourself, and that you're still dependent on someone to enable you to live. If you're single and/or childless, and are willing to take a possible lifestyle change to make your dreams come true, then that's the price of it. Yeah...you probably can't drive a new car and have a 2 bedroom apartment when you're starting this. Ooooh well. Hey, I'm moving back in with my sister and grandfather (well, there are family problems, too, that I need to help with), and I'm not ashamed. I've got too much to do to worry about whether someone's judging me.

Case in point- my sister, who probably makes $50,000, has never lived outside of the family house that she grew up in. She's behind on the mortgage for it. She's irresponsible with her money. She hates her job, and a great deal of her life. I left. I was HORRIBLE with money. I started to rent, had the bad roommate situations, was broke several times, and struggled. But, hey...I'm still in debt, but am way better with my money. I looked at the writing on the wall (and the jobs that should have come to me that didn't, after LOTS of resumes), and knew that I'm my best commodity. I love my life, I'm grateful for what I have, and I know that more is coming...and I welcome it with open arms. I have no car, about three months worth of money, and that's that.

She's has a job. I don't. But, who is richer?

So, good for you, man. I hope for the best for you!!!

ETA: And thinking that "putting on a happy face" is any good for you is no good. All you're doing is making it way better for corporate to make money off of you without any thought. You're not doing a thing that's good for yourself.

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Matt,

If working doesn't make you happy and quitting jobs on the first day doesn't make you happy, you need to work out what does make you happy and make a plan to achieve it. I'm assuming you want to be happy and if so, I can't see how you have any other choice other than perhaps getting a sugar mommy.

A plan could be to tough it out for 6 months at a job you don't like and save up some money to get you started doing what you do like. You will go no where without money. Who knows, you might even be a little wiser from the experience.

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Thanks for all the replies.

I dont have any responsibilities as far as family and kids go, i'm just desperate to move out as i'm only 20 years old and i need some independence. I'm very much focussed now on making money either passively or self employed. Ideally i will do both and enjoy what i'm doing so that im busy and have multiple income streams. I'm treating my online affiliate marketting venture as if i am at work. So i wake up at a set time and work on my project in set hours so that i remain focussed.
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Wow, you're only 20?!? I thought you were older!
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I'm treating my online affiliate marketting venture as if i am at work. So i wake up at a set time and work on my project in set hours so that i remain focussed.
Awesome! You may not be suited for being an employee but hard work and self discipline to your goals will bring you success.

Being responsible for your own income is work, except its for your own hide and you're accountable by the folks who give you their money for your value instead of trading work for a paycheck and someone else's goals.

Keep at it!!!
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Ah, I didn't realize it was just you - in that case, go for it and I wish you well! If I'd started at 20, I can't imagine where I'd be now .
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When you go to a job purely to get money, and the money isn't enough to make you want to go back.

Dont.

If you need money start doing something you enjoy, but do it for free. Help out other people for nothing, and you will find that suddenly income opportunities are coming to you in the area you are enjoying.

If you don't get income opportunites you will get 'stuff' free things, discounts, gifts, and usually for me they add up to more than the service I gave.

Everywhere I live I build up a network quickly of supporters by doing things that people need. Then I find myself offered partnerships, jobs, gifts and the like all the time.

My friends are always suprised when they go out with me and I choose a restaurant and the owner comes over to my table for a chat, or gives us a discount, or I get extra food. Or we go to a shop and half the staff greet me by name.

If you do it for free without asking for anything it always comes back to you in one way or another.

Alternately, find a job that will teach you something you want to know instead of doing it for the money. It becomes more like a hobby than a job then.
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Congratulations... But don't sit on your thoughts. Act on them. Don't think too much as your are losing valuable time. Are you going to do affiliate marketing? Then get a site up today. Need help? Ask.

There are times that I feel as you do - even though I am already self employed. But I want to get away from the 9-5 consulting to the 24/7 work whenever I want life style. I don't expect it to be easy or fast - but I do expect it to succeed. In a year or two hopefully you and I will be doing what we want when we want how we want for whom we want.

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