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Old 12-30-2008, 01:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Great Idea for business I want to start! Found a gap in the market.

(please do not steal idea) lol... I hope the wards you off! lol

I have noticed There isnt a major google response for "commission art"
However lots of people want commission art.. People pay millions for commission art. People start up hotels or cruse ships ect and want loads of artwork made in the theme of there place. Also lots of peopel like personal commission art anyway!
My idea is to start "commissionart.com!"
A site for artists to register upload their portfolio and get people to commission them to make pieces for them!
There are so many different ways I could monetize it and there is not really a point in naming them all because I think there pretty obvious.
yeah. What do you think? Im a bit scared of this idea being stolen but I think the risk is worth me getting feedback
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Old 12-30-2008, 01:47 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Thanks for the idea, dwixi!!

Haha, I'm kidding. That sounds good... really good in fact. I don't know how you could stop people copying you though? Being the first in gives you an advantage though.

I can see how you'll get the artists to submit work, but how do you market your services to the customer? Just get a high ranking on google?
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Thanks for the idea, dwixi!!

Haha, I'm kidding. That sounds good... really good in fact. I don't know how you could stop people copying you though? Being the first in gives you an advantage though.

I can see how you'll get the artists to submit work, but how do you market your services to the customer? Just get a high ranking on google?
Yeah I got the idea becuase I was looking to list myself on google for the exact same thing but when i searched "commission art" I got pretty unrelated links the most related was an article.. But not full websites for it. So it should be easy to get it up that high.
Hopefully if a mod thinks its a good idea they will just stop this thread lol .. I kinda hope that happens Im getting scared now Iv realized that it is a good idea that could work REALLY well.
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Thanks for the idea, dwixi!!

Haha, I'm kidding. That sounds good... really good in fact. I don't know how you could stop people copying you though? Being the first in gives you an advantage though.

I can see how you'll get the artists to submit work, but how do you market your services to the customer? Just get a high ranking on google?
If i did do it I would have to get a wed designer to make it for me as I am struggling with making my basic site let alone one with account log ins for users
If they like the idea maybe I could get someone to partner with me or build it for a percentage of the company?
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I don't think you need to worry...

I have a feeling the limiting factor could be the speed artists can produce new work, more than getting customers.

If a hotel, say, commissions 50 paintings then one artist might take a year to do that.
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Currently, how does a hotel find someone to commission art from? This is an important question that you must address with your website.
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Currently, how does a hotel find someone to commission art from? This is an important question that you must address with your website.
Well, I imagine currently they mostly have to settle for going to a site that sells mass work by artists. There are lots of sites aiming at this. Art for hotels ect. But none with the fact that they make them on commision
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I don't think you need to worry...

I have a feeling the limiting factor could be the speed artists can produce new work, more than getting customers.

If a hotel, say, commissions 50 paintings then one artist might take a year to do that.
3 things combined kind of make that not os much of a problem.

1. Its not just people wanting use amounts of work
2. There will be lots of artists
3.They can get them ordered in advance

If there was the situation for that it still would be a slight problem, but Thats only one kind of client the site would attract.
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Well, I imagine currently they mostly have to settle for going to a site that sells mass work by artists. There are lots of sites aiming at this. Art for hotels ect. But none with the fact that they make them on commision
Well, before you invest a lot of time and energy into this, find out for sure how this happens. You have design the site with the hotels in mind because they really are the buyers. Why are they buying mass-produced works? Who is in charge of purchasing these works? Is there a demand on their side for what you want? If so, what kind of hotels? Only upscale ones? Large chains? It's an interesting idea, but I think you have a lot of research to do before you jump in.
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You should also remember that many people want to comission art from artists they already follow or admire. So they are unlikely to do a google search, but instead remember one or two painters/sketch artists they have enjoyed and approach them directly.

It does sound like a good idea, if you can make it happen
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Well, before you invest a lot of time and energy into this, find out for sure how this happens. You have design the site with the hotels in mind because they really are the buyers. Why are they buying mass-produced works? Who is in charge of purchasing these works? Is there a demand on their side for what you want? If so, what kind of hotels? Only upscale ones? Large chains? It's an interesting idea, but I think you have a lot of research to do before you jump in.
I agree. Get to know your intended market first, then if there really is a need for this from within the market, build your killer site.
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Well, go and make it happen.

Your website can centralize the efforts of hundreds, even thousands of commission artists. Like a Google of commission arts.

I hope you soar with this idea!
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My idea is to start "commissionart.com!"
That domain has been registered for 10 years by Aldis Browne from Venice, California.

So you might have to settle for the .net, .org, or find another domain altogether.
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That domain has been registered for 10 years by Aldis Browne from Venice, California.

So you might have to settle for the .net, .org, or find another domain altogether.
Really? It doesn't load any website...
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Really? It doesn't load any website...

It may not have a live web site but if he has registered it and paid for the domain it is unavailable for anyone else to use. I have several domains that are not hosted.
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I don't want to pour cold water all over your idea - but before you start, find out how many hotels etc really commission art (as opposed to buying cheap prints to put on their walls).

In the current climate, hotels are suffering, people are cutting back on discretionary spending such as vacations, businesses are cutting down on business travel and the number of nights their execs spend in hotels (and using video conferencing more). There arn't any highly paid Wall Street types any more who demand hotels with original artwork. Hotels facing this sort of contraction in turnover will not fork out to buy art. It counts as non-essential spending.

Your idea sounds like something that would have been great during the boom times, but might not fly in a downturn.

Please do research on whether people will actually buy the art. You seem to be focusing too much on whether artists will sign up with your site. You really need to focus on whether you can make any sales.
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Default some starter market research for your niche idea

Here's some search engine, US based, market research for your niche idea:

Each day there are about 22 people searching for commission art and 109,000 webpages for that term.

Each day there are about 33 people searching for custom art and 994,000 webpages for that term.

Each day there are about 7 people searching for custom portraits and 95,700 webpages for that term.

Each day there are about 7 people searching for commission painting and 26,400 webpages for that term.

Each day there are about 2 people searching for commissioned paintings and 44,500 webpages for that term.

Each day there is about 1 person searching for commissioned artwork and 68,800 webpages for that term.

Each day there are about 374 people searching for hotel art and 552,000 webpages for that term. (not necessarily custom or commissioned art)

Those were the best of the keyword research I did for that niche.

These aren't the end of market research needed to understand what the search engines see for your niche idea but they are a good start.

What value would you want to give related to commissioned art? I'm sure there's a need somewhere for art that speaks directly and solely to a potential buyer but how would you connect those people with the people who can create that art or do that work?

I would not advise building a website that does anything until you can clearly say what purpose you wish to serve and know the market for whom you want to enrich, then lay out a plan that would make that connection happen knowing people will be looking for it.

Hope that helps move you forward in your journey.
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