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Old 11-18-2008, 04:31 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Easy solution to everyones concerns here:

Set up a vending machine next to the m&m ones that vend slingshots. Peanut m&m's make fantastic slingshot bullets, and shooting said bullets at people is a sure fire way to a engage in a social learning experience.

More m&m will be sold.
Less m&m will be eaten.
More personal development will take place!
If you have a vending machine for slingshots then you also need to vend AK47s and bombs. you should be an equal opportunity dealer.
I've read this is logical?
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Old 11-18-2008, 04:55 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Have you ever heard of rehab for candy addiction? Candy isn't actually addictive; it just fulfills the natural hunger for sugar in fruits without providing the nutrition. Drugs are really addictive. That's why candy is legal, and drugs are not.

Good luck with your vegan police state though
Alcohol is highly addictive for many people. Caffeine too. Last time I checked, both are legal.
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Perhaps I'll open a Lightworker's Bar someday, where lightworkers can come to smoke, drink, eat candy, and get into bar fights.

Then they can go out afterwards and pretend to care about people.
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Old 11-18-2008, 05:20 PM   #34 (permalink)
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PS. Chocolate candy contains phenylethylamine, theobromine, anandamide and tryptophan, all are mood/physiological altering substances. Ever heard of chocoholics?

PPS. Refined sugar is addictive, mood altering, and behavior altering.

Ever wonder if arguing on the internet is a horrible waste of time?

All sarcasm and joking aside, I would like to see you take some steps towards manifesting a centralized consortium of lightworkers Steve

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Old 11-18-2008, 08:00 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Perhaps I'll open a Lightworker's Bar someday, where lightworkers can come to smoke, drink, eat candy, and get into bar fights.

Then they can go out afterwards and pretend to care about people.
You can't take all the people for the same. I know a lot of people who smoke, drink, eat candy and get into bar fights. And they really care about people.
It's not because somebody doesn't do what is "right" in one mind, it isn't right in another.
It's like the experience you had in the gym the other day, you just wanted to beat somebody. You aren't a darkworker aren't you ? That must be awfully painful to think of yourself as a darkworker, although you liked the experience I think.

Shed in other light, who decides who "is" a darkworker and who "is" a lightworker. Doesn't really matter...

I would say I'm none of them, because I don't like labels on my head. But Everybody has the right to label me as they want.

I think your strong opinion is probably because of your juice diet, but it doesn't matter. Even if it is "normal" Steve. A lot of people like you!

greetings.

And for VetTechJes, Nice job!
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Old 11-20-2008, 04:44 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Look. I don't know about you others. But I LIKE candy. I don't eat a lot of it, I don't buy it regularly, I don't even crave it. But I love chocolate: white, brown, black... with nuts, with nougat...

I am sure that an excess of it is a really BAD THING... but isn't that the point? An excess of most things will kill. Even WATER.

I think we should be congratulating VetTechJess. Candy is not evil. The demonizing of everyday items will not lead to enlightenment, instead it will lead to the rise of a knee-jerk somnambulant population that condemns without thinking all that it does not understand. Now isn't that darkworking at its worst?
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Old 11-20-2008, 05:00 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I can go for some peanut M&M's. Good luck.
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Old 11-20-2008, 05:53 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I don't chime in much, but you have to be kidding me if you don't understand why Steve is debating against the sale of candy...and Steve isn't telling anyone what to do, so put your boss/mom/dad complex to bed - he is constructively criticizing.

Pleasure (which is fleeting) is not happiness. The pleasure derived from eating "candy" actually leads to unhappiness - most are just not in tune enough to notice that.

Mainstream candy contains all types of substances that are poisonous to our bodies, including our children, so you are just being ignorant when you try to argue differently.

Chocolate can be good for you, when it really is chocolate, e.g. Welcome to the raw chocolate company or others. (no affiliation)

I'd like to think this was all common sense, but obviously not.
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Old 11-20-2008, 07:27 PM   #39 (permalink)
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you have to be kidding me if you don't understand why Steve is debating against the sale of candy
I second that!
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Old 11-20-2008, 07:37 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Hmmm, I haven't heard Steve debating anything at all in this thread. I only heard him express his surprise that someone's actions didn't align with his evaluation of the person's intentions.

I'm not surprised, though -- Jess has several times expressed in the forums a pretty bold intention to make money with the least possible effort or production of value. I never heard her say anything about being a lightworker or acting in the manner of a lightworker -- I'm not sure where Steve got that impression.
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Old 11-20-2008, 08:35 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Hmmm, I haven't heard Steve debating anything at all in this thread. I only heard him express his surprise that someone's actions didn't align with his evaluation of the person's intentions.
Steve's initial inquiry, what instigates the eventual debate:
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Wait a minute...

Are you actually selling refined sugar, corn syrup, yellow #5... and other items like that?
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I think if we sell products like M&Ms to kids, we should sell cigarettes, alcohol, heroin, and cocaine to them as well -- if you're gonna promote drug use, you should be an equal opportunity dealer. It's the only way to be fair.
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Alcohol is highly addictive for many people. Caffeine too. Last time I checked, both are legal.
Looks to me like he is debating against people trying to rationalize views opposite to his belief that selling chemical-filled candy (and other drugs) is not a lightworking behavior.
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Looks to me like he is debating against people trying to rationalize views opposite to his belief that selling chemical-filled candy (and other drugs) is not a lightworking behavior.
Well, you may be right, but it doesn't look like he's debating to me. My feeling is that he tends to see lightworker tendencies in most of the people who participate here, and is honestly surprised when someone follows a path of providing detriment, rather than support, to the organism.

He can be tricky, though, I'll admit.
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Old 11-20-2008, 10:09 PM   #43 (permalink)
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I'm not surprised, though -- Jess has several times expressed in the forums a pretty bold intention to make money with the least possible effort or production of value. I never heard her say anything about being a lightworker or acting in the manner of a lightworker -- I'm not sure where Steve got that impression.
Yep, exactly what I thought.
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He can be tricky, though, I'll admit.
That's true! Scary tricky.
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This thread perfectly reflects our world. One person is actually doing something and everybody else tries to make him/herself look important by blabbering about it.
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This thread perfectly reflects our world. One person is actually doing something and everybody else tries to make him/herself look important by blabbering about it.
I think this thread reflects the forum: one person is doing something and others are asking questions, exploring if those actions are in line with the person's intentions. What affect will these actions have on others? Is this really what you want to be doing?

It's not people trying to make themselves look important - it's people helping bring awareness and consciousness to a seemingly benign choice.
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Brain Damage is the critical difference here between sugar and caffeine on the one hand, and alcohol/opiates/amphetamine/THC/LSD etc., especially in developing brains. No rational person can think they're the same.
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At least with a candy machine you get a reasonably moderate amount of candy. Less than a candy bar. In moderation, candy won't kill you.
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Have you ever heard of rehab for candy addiction? Candy isn't actually addictive; it just fulfills the natural hunger for sugar in fruits without providing the nutrition. Drugs are really addictive.
Actually I have seen people go to treatment for addiction to candy. I was associated with an eating disorders treatment center and many of the clients had an addiction to candy and other refined sugars that were literally life threatening. Being one or two hundred pounds overweight certainly qualifies as life threatening.
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