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Originally Posted by juicemcnewton  Ok, now I must admit I don't understand this SR business at all. I get alot of the other stuff people go on about, but this makes absolutely no sense to me.
How is it that I can't prove someone elses existence? Other people existing is the proof, it's not even comparable to a dream or having an imaginary friend. I prove other people exist through input (my senses). Anything I have in a dream or I imagine is constructed from existed data.
Perhaps I'm insane, but it seems quite obvious to me that I'm a body with a mind, consciously separate from your consciousness.
I guess what I'm saying is I don't understand what would make someone think that we all are a single consciousness? Probably if someone could explain that single point, I'd understand just what's going here.
Perhaps I can even make it simpler to answer. Do you SR believers think the universe is here just for us/because of us humans? Like if the world was destroyed and no humans were left, would the universe still exist? Yeah, I think that would help me out alot to know. |
What do you know for sure???.......Two things.
1. You exist.
2. You exist right now.
Everything else could be an illusion, including that there are 6 billion people on the planet and that there's even a planet at all.
If you want to grasp SR, you have to understand that there is no universe unless.........
consciousness is there to be aware of it. Think about everything you know of that you think exists, it doesn't all have to exist right in front of you now, that would be too hard to pull off without baking your noodle
No, consciousness only ever has to build reality right here, right now and no where else. The real big sticking point for SR is people.........if I'm consciousness, then who are you? Are you consciousness?.....No.....Why?
Because consciousness isn't human.
People seperate and label themselves as human beans, but you are no more a human bean than you are a chair. You can control a chair, interact with it and you do the same with your human bean. Your human bean is a tool for observation and physical mainfestation. People identify with their human bean because it's the central observation point for consciousness, but it's not consciousness, it's an observation point.
Also from the SR POV, when you want something (love/money) you don't find someone to give it to you. You give it to yourself and observe that gift through your human bean. To grasp SR, you have to shift your identity and stop seeing your human bean as what you are.
When you're sitting in a chair, you are as much the chair as your own body. Every person in your present moment awareness (and no one outside) is you, not human you - observation point, but a part of your consciousness. When you dream, you're human bean is unconscious, because it lacks your consciousness, that you have shifted from the human bean observation point to somewhere else to enjoy that different less dense reality.
The best part of this, is if you're not there to be aware of it......not only does it not exist, but it doesn't matter......things only affect us when we create them, love, money, pain, poverty, etc. Once we create something we then have to deal with it, good, bad and ugly.
SR is a way to stop worrying and start creating, once you know you are the creator of everything, then you can start creating (on purpose) exactly what you want, no more victim mentality, because the whole thing is of your creation.
Another important part of SR is that thought can output directly and instantly into dense physical reality and this is happening all day, every day, but we're just not observing it, we're actually denying we are creating the whole thing and then when things get ugly, we play victim and usually blame someone else.
If you're sitting in the bathroom, you're creating everything in that room and the observation point (human you) to observe it. If you're at a football game and there's 50,000 people in a huge stadium, you're creating that right now and placing you the observer there to enjoy the creation.
Consciousness is so very amazingly powerful, but it only ever has to create anything in awareness and nothing else. It doesn't have to maintain the entire universe all at once, only what's in present moment awareness.
Who is consciousness.............you are, consciousness creates human beans, not the other way around.
Max