Nice replys so far.
What you say about that this is somewhat a bad case of beign Macho is so true for me, i have been raised to be that way by family and culture, and i belive that society in general pushes us to only think in sex about women, they teach us that companionship, contribution, connection and love are values that only women and gays have, we true men dont have those traits... its very sad, very un-realistic and stupid... even childish...
Its good to share this stuff, getting new perspectives helps for self growth, so even if i feel stupid for asking such questions, i can see the door for improvement in me, if i am stupid in some way, i wont be stupid for too long
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You just have to make the necessary effort to find out what they "really" are all about... you'll be amazed
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What you say in here is awesome, great motivation for real rapport and connection, thanks everyone, you taught me good stuff.