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Old 11-14-2006, 11:38 AM
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Hi everyone XD
Please excuse the delay, the internet was down for a couple of days, so I couldn't respond, sorry

@Ilya, I hope you don't mind this turning into a discussion =P. When I started off with PD, discipline was my goal, but later on I of course realised, as you said that it was a tool. But in a way to me it is still a goal and a tool. I mean I've set myself a goal for discipline, but of course it is a means to an end.
"Discipline is on one hand is the conscious effort necessary at a certain stage of learning the skill" - Exactly, and I hope to improve in my chosen skills through regular practice and I hope to turn this regular practice into a habit by applying the built up discipline over a 30 day trial. Now I've done this a few times, but it never feels properly "installed" maybe because I don't do it exactly over a 30 day period (excluding a few days) I've been wondering about it and though that maybe I've just been trying to install to many habits at a time? Maybe one habit for 30 days and then the next, etc? Like for eg, getting up at 06:00 in the morning, I remember a time when it just happened effortless, I would automatically get up at the right time. But nowadays it's a conscious effort (so apparently not a habit yet) so should I simply do this one thing over a 30 day period and then build up to the other habits I'd like to install?

As for losing discipline, well can't you? Maybe I'm just talking myself into it, but I have the feeling that when I don't follow the tasks on my plan regularly I become lazy again (and often fall into the other extreme of doing almost nothing)

I understand what you mean with skills staying with you once their learnt, eg your example of bike riding, makes sense and the difference between learning and applying, well isn't the application the "discipline"? I mean to apply regularly until it becomes a habit? Sorry if I'm muddling things up here (little confused), but when you say "skill" as in "If you need to do something regularly, treat it as a skill and learn it" do you mean habit?
'Cause this is how I currently perceive it like this:
1. You set a goal for yourself
2. This goal (just in my case) takes regular practice to achieve the level of mastery that I would like
3. Assign a certain amount of time for everyday practice to improve my ability in the given skill
4. Do this for 30 days to install as habit (so that it becomes effortless and I'll have more room in my head for other things (eg. installing new habits, tasks of the day etc))

? It's how I currently understand it, 'cause things seem a little jumbled up here, I manage to do my stuff, but it can get exhausting, currently a lot of hair pulling involved =P

Did you install habits one at a time? Or in a go? I've tried doing a few at a time, but as mentioned earlier they don't seem to be habits yet.

I'd Appreciate any insights
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