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Old 08-09-2007, 01:27 PM   #113 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
I don't believe I've ever said there is a world out there..........and I don't see container theory as a limitation or boundry..........I see it as present moment awareness and nothing outside of that truly exists.

Is it helpful to think like this???.............You bet it is (for me) because I don't have to worry or care about anything outside my awareness, I don't have to play the blame and shame game. Nothing affects me unless I bring it into my consciousness, my present moment awareness.
This sounds contradictorary. That you don't have to worry or care about anything "outside of you awareness" is a statement that there is something outside of your awareness that you aren't including but then you also say nothing outside of the present moment awareness truly exists.

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Does that sound selfish??...........it's supposed to, but my real being (consciousness) is naturally selfish, it has to be, because that's all there is. This is not ego selfishness, this is loving caring selfishness. Every thing in my present moment awareness, especially people are wonderful, because they are me, it's amazing to see me in every different shape and form.

If people want to believe that consciousness is everywhere and everyone all over the galaxy, that's fine, but I don't buy it, for me that fractures my identity into parts that don't make much sense and from an avatar POV, it weakens my creative power.
If you are deny any part of what you know to exist, you are creating a facture in this way. To say your utlimate higher consciousness is not involved with everything is to deny what has been presented to you. It would be one thing to not know galazies exist, but you do know this. They are part of you as something in your awareness. Why would identifying with all that is in a spiritual way weaken your avatar or creative power?

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How can I be consciousness, all over the galaxy creating and maintaining everything and then be right here building a individual reality...........I just don't believe that's how it works.
This is coming from a limited view point. Being in the present moment allows a connection that is involved with everything. It's not that our mind is having to do actual activites to maintain a galaxy. But our spiritual oneness is involved with everything. There is a particle that is our individual ego stuff and there's the wave or field of spiritual oneness that is everything. We are both at the same time.
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I've found the most emowering belief system for me and it works for me, people can believe what ever they wish.......as long as it's empowering, then it's all good.
I glad you found a belief system that helps you. I just bounce off what you are saying, not trying to make you change anything you want to believe. In general I think any belief system can also be a hinderance, eventually. In other words, like you've said somewhere, it's about trying to simplify. One way to simplify is to not hold onto believing something is exactly a certain way.

However, I do also see a similar description of what my imediate environment is. That it's a neat reflection of me and in that case is included as a sense of self.
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