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Old 08-06-2007, 12:19 PM
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In the macroscopic world it's effects are completely and utterly masked.
Masked in what sense? Most of the important processes in the human world are "under the surface" and so far science has benefited whenever people start to understand things with increasingly finer granularity. Quantum physics research is already proving itself useful.

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Much of modern technology operates at a scale where quantum effects are significant. Examples include the laser, the transistor, the electron microscope, and magnetic resonance imaging. The study of semiconductors led to the invention of the diode and the transistor, which are indispensable for modern electronics.

Researchers are currently seeking robust methods of directly manipulating quantum states. Efforts are being made to develop quantum cryptography, which will allow guaranteed secure transmission of information. A more distant goal is the development of quantum computers, which are expected to perform certain computational tasks exponentially faster than classical computers. Another active research topic is quantum teleportation, which deals with techniques to transmit quantum states over arbitrary distances.

In many devices, even the simple light switch, quantum tunneling is vital, as otherwise the electrons in the electric current could not penetrate the potential barrier made up, in the case of the light switch, of a layer of oxide.
(from Quantum mechanics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

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For a start competing intentions would wipe each other out.
Only if the positives and negatives of every factor involved were completely equal. What if most intentions are weighted by so many different factors that depending on a given application, there will almost always be a clear (cumulative) dominant intention. And if there isn't at first, an adaptive system might reprocess the intentions until a combination of circumstances allows for a clearly dominant intention to emerge (when some factors change so that ambivalence or self-contradiction is eventually resolved). This resolution could theoretically take place many times over, first at the individual level, then at some wide-area-network collaborative level, possibly at some level that combines a rule-based deterministic AI system with spontaneous human intent, even mass human intent, before certain results are manifested (wouldn't *that* change the legal system).

The problem with dismissing any of this stuff now is that we hardly understand the full breadth and depth of applied quantum physics now and while our artificial intelligence and computational means are converging via networking and distributed technologies, we haven't even begun to explore similar convergence with our mental computation and natural human intelligence. Quantum physics might not be the final core layer in the "onion" but it may bring us one layer closer to understanding how things *really* work in the physical world. There was probably someone back in the day who said "atoms? What use are atoms if we can't even see the little sh#ts?" then lo, and behold, people figured out how to use their understanding of atomic and sub-atomic particles to make all sorts of progress.

I'm not even remotely "sold" on this LOA thing, but I don't think quantum mechanics or quantum physics are junk science by any means. I don't know if LOA is potentially related but let's say LOA is more sci-fi and wishful thinking than anything else (the idea that someday people will be able to simply intend things and that will be enough, on a quantum level, to manifest something relevant on a macroscopic level). It wouldn't be the first time that a group of wishful thinkers/visionaries predicted a future technology that their contemporaries thought was impossible. (and yeah I know that many people believe LOA is working right now as a "law of the universe" like gravity, but that isn't my subjective take on it right now). If LOA were true, I'd have vibrated at the proper frequency to attract Johnny Depp a hundred times over by now.
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