Originally Posted by mlc82
Wow, this same attitude is exactly why I left the (christian) church I attended and organized religion in general... The idea of "My way is absolutely correct, your way definitely isn't, and I damn sure should be condescending toward those who think differently than me and choose what I consider the wrong path, even though I can't prove that my way is right and theirs is wrong beyond my own speculation" sounds like the main reason why I didn't stick around any longer than I had to...
This reminds me why I also ran from the old religion/politics forum I used to post on, it wsa nothing but theists and atheists flaming each other over how their side was absolutely correct and the other was either wasting their lives or going to hell, not for one moment considering that just maybe, "spirituality" or whatever you want to call it might work differently for different people.
I never wrote that my way is absolutely correct. I wrote "There are different points of view. I don't want you to believe in what I'm saying. I want to explain what I think and show you that one can be non-Christian and not dogmatic but still think differently." Can you see the difference?
And I did not write that I should be condescending but asked Ilya what is his argument against being condescending, because I'm always interested how people support simultaneously an idea that this is wrong
to be condescending and this is wrong to say that for me something is wrong. I think it is a kind of schizophrenia.
It's illogical. Either you reject the whole idea of morality and then you have no base to say what is right or wrong or you accept some morals but then of course they are exactly like mine - the matter of faith. There are no scientifically proved morals. AFAIK Nietzsche has proved that rejection of the whole idea of morality is utterly impossible because soon it becomes replaced with different set of morals. It doesn't matter whether you preach them or they remain hidden - everyone can easily trace it in your way of thinking.
Let me ask you one question: So you think that being condescending is wrong, can you explain me why? I can trace a bit of contempt (if not some ekhm, patronizing) in what you wrote about condescending behavior.