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Old 08-23-2011, 12:45 AM   #13 (permalink)
Cochonette
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It is not the most difficult habit to change, and it is not impossible. Unless you go at it from guilt. If you think you have to change to please others, you'll resent it and sabotage yourself.
You're making a pretty enormous claim. Can you show me evidence, rather than just making claims? Besides trans people, I have only heard of one person who seemed to have genuinely had a complete orientation flip, but I don't know about that either because he, too, had a repulsion against same-sex sexuality. For trans people, the change is not necessarily a conscious one, but comes about during their vast shift in experience as they physiologically transition. Similarly, the development of an orientation in early childhood is not conscious either.

And how many millions of people have tried to turn themselves straight? I tried to do it, even after I accepted my sexual orientation, longer after the shame was gone (not sure I ever was ashamed, or felt any guilt, but perhaps embarrassed). I simply wanted to be bisexual. Explain to me how the hell I'm supposed to "make myself" start being attracted to men.

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I don't have a political agenda. If I read a post about how gays have it easy and how difficult it is to be straight, I would reply the same way.
Then what's with the weird part of your post about politics being "getting around the repulsion most people feel toward homosexuality," and "people feeling guilty and ashamed of judging others for it"? What does that have to do with pyrogen?

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