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Freefall · 08-02-2007, 01:21 PM

Hello All/Steve/Consciousness

I have only recently stumbled onto this site, where I found the 'light' personal development articles (the articles with tips on goals, decision making, etc...) extremely helpful and invigorating. With this in mind I decided to delve into the idea of subjective reality (as opposed to blanketing myself in ignorance as per usual), and am now adrift in a big sea of confusion.

Here are some of the problems my mind keeps getting stuck on:

1. If subjective reality is the true nature of reality, then why are we viewing an objective reality? Where did this view come from? From my understanding of subjective reality, there are no external influences. so while you can attribute objective reality to factors like social conditioning, the media, etc... these are manifestations, created from intentions, but why would these intentions exist? I guess what I'm really asking is where do the bad intentions come from that require the subjective view to transcend?

2. How can you teach someone else to view reality subjectively if you believe in a subjective reality? It seems if you want to teach others to view subjectively, you are accepting that they have a consciousness, which directly interferes with the idea of your own subjective reality. Steve, how do you hold both these ideas in tandem?

If anyone with a better SR lens on than me could shed some light on these points I would be very grateful, but please, only rip them to shreds if you plan on re-using them to make something better.

Thanks

08-02-2007, 01:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
Freefall Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2	If subjective reality is true, where does objective reality come from? Hello All/Steve/Consciousness I have only recently stumbled onto this site, where I found the 'light' personal development articles (the articles with tips on goals, decision making, etc...) extremely helpful and invigorating. With this in mind I decided to delve into the idea of subjective reality (as opposed to blanketing myself in ignorance as per usual), and am now adrift in a big sea of confusion. Here are some of the problems my mind keeps getting stuck on: 1. If subjective reality is the true nature of reality, then why are we viewing an objective reality? Where did this view come from? From my understanding of subjective reality, there are no external influences. so while you can attribute objective reality to factors like social conditioning, the media, etc... these are manifestations, created from intentions, but why would these intentions exist? I guess what I'm really asking is where do the bad intentions come from that require the subjective view to transcend? 2. How can you teach someone else to view reality subjectively if you believe in a subjective reality? It seems if you want to teach others to view subjectively, you are accepting that they have a consciousness, which directly interferes with the idea of your own subjective reality. Steve, how do you hold both these ideas in tandem? If anyone with a better SR lens on than me could shed some light on these points I would be very grateful, but please, only rip them to shreds if you plan on re-using them to make something better. Thanks