[HiImJeremy]

Originally Posted by NSS

By permission giving do you mean permission to harm or possess you?

If that's what you mean, based on what limited experience I have, I've found that communicating and giving permission are not the same thing.

I've been giving offerings to all the spirits in my area, from helpful ones to not so helpful ones for the past month. I've seen all kinds of figures in my peripheral vision while I'm giving the offering, but none of them have tried to harm me in any way. The worst that has happened is on the first night of giving the offering, while I was about to go to sleep, I saw an image of a woman lunging at me with a knife. That freaked me the **** out but after that everything has been fine.

Maybe it's different with demons I don't know, but I think anything that has the ability to cause you any real harm would have better things to do than **** with you just because you communicated with it, unless you provoked it in any way.

If you know a banishing ritual that adds to the protection and makes it pretty safe to communicate with most things out there.

If you or anyone else have any different experiences I'd love to hear about it.

You bring up some good points here NSS. I appreciate your opinion here.

When you're doing a ritual of some sort, the big driving force behind it is the intention you bring with it. So if you are invocking something, to call forth, you are giving whatever that is permission to be there. This goes for High vibrational or low vibrational beings. Do i make sense so far?

Now you are right, communicating and giving permission are not exactly the same thing, but they do tie in together. Of course if your asking for communication, that is a form of permission. ' Come to me so we can talk'. That's pretty straight forward.

Running water effects spirits and negs. This has been known since ancient times. In fact i think they normally have running water passing underneath most church entrances. That's an interesting one. Modern plumbing blocks in a lot of spirits. That's a long story and heaps of explanation, this can explain why many get stuck inside houses. I don't think it's wise to give offerings,(which is actually permission) to all these random spirits in the area. You're dealing with potential life and death situations here.

Let us remember here, most spirits aren't harmful to you. They're just going about there business. Only a small percentage are harmful. You're lucky really.

Maybe it's different with demons I don't know, but I think anything that has the ability to cause you any real harm would have better things to do than **** with you just because you communicated with it, unless you provoked it in any way.

Demons have a purpose. Their purpose is to make your life difficult, so that you can grow spiritually. They will sabotage everything, they will do all the can to make your life as difficult and painful as possible. They can also be very patient. They will lay under the woodwork for years if they need to. Permission is normally given when one greatly desires spiritual growth and abilities. But here, you have chosen to talk to this entity, you have given quite a good amount of permission. It's presence was welcomed because you chose to talk to it. So, no, i don't think they have anything better to do - you are their purpose and it's their nature do what they do.

If you know a banishing ritual that adds to the protection and makes it pretty safe to communicate with most things out there.

This too, banishing rituals can be absolute life savers. Learning the Lesser banishing ritual of the pentagram is very helpful for more demonic activity. It is not an absolute fix though. For example, calling down the 'white light' is not very effective. People believe this, but it's a bit like a child pulling the blanket over their heads at night. There are many countermeasures that will help to defend yourself and get rid of them, but there is no one method that will absolutley keep you safe. You need to utilise many countermeasures to help yourself out. Still, it does not mean you are pretty safe when dealing with these beings. One would be naive to think one who is wielding a bow and arrow, they've only practised a couple of times with, is enough to take on a full grown male lion. The same applies here.