[Anagogy]

Max, I've been reading some of your posts about subjective reality lately, and I'm slightly perplexed by a few of your comments. For example, you say:

In the SR belief system, it's all you, not you your body, humaness, but you-consciousness. So the connection is very easy to see. If you are consciousness, then something can only exist if you (consciousness) are aware of it, to observe it is to be aware of it, so if you're not there to observe it, it's not in awareness and therefore doesn't exist.

And then, you also expounded upon this by explaining:

To use SR as a belief system that empowers creatorship means we have to let go of identifying ourselves as human beings, while that is our important observation point, it is not where we create from for it is a creation itself and creations don't create.

And in another post in response to a comment by cylon:

What actually happened was that you projected that thought onto him and he then simulated the thought. Now that makes it sound like he has no free will of his own and that he doesn't actually have his own thoughts.

From the SR POV that is exactly what is happening, but to accept that you have to accept that technically, you don't have thoughts either, only consciousness has thoughts and human bodies (including your own) are just mechanisms for outputing those thoughts.

I'm curious, does this apply to other bodies as well? Are they points of observation too? Or do you believe that you, Max, are the only point of observation? I understand you believe that Max is contained within consciousness, which you identify with, rather than Max himself alone, as a separate organism, but I'm a little unclear about the avatar called Max and his relationship to the rest of the world. Also, if you can project thoughts onto the people that appear in YOUR awareness, why have you not rid the world of hunger and poverty? Or is it that since that is outside your awareness at the present moment it doesn't exist?

Again I must ask, is Max the only observation point?

I was wondering because in yet another post you stated:

The universe, planets, space, 6 billion people.
None of these things exist all at once. Consciousness (you) are very powerful, but it doesn't have to render everything in it's awareness all the time. If you were on a space ship looking out a window at earth, then you have created that perception instantly to observe, but while doing that you're not in a cave in the earth observing the inside of a cave. It's the same with all the people on earth, can you ever observe them all at the same time? No, consciousness doesn't need to do that, so it doesn't..

I'm curious, does this mean that if your observing avatar cannot see someone/something they completely cease to exist? This is starting to sound like the locus of power and identification is with the observing avatar rather than consciousness/god mind/container. I would tend to think that consciousness itself, being unlimited and all, would occupy far more states than one simple observing avatar. Could it not have multiple "eyes" so to speak? Why not experience all conceivable configurations of consciousness if it is indeed unlimited? And if it was using its awesome power to experience these states, wouldn't it be aware of everything, in which case, nothing would ever cease to exist?

Consciousness is the container and everything inside it, but nothing outside of it, for nothing outside exists. You can bring anything into the container and make anything leave the container. You know it's your container, because you are the only one who is ever inside it 24/7.

Furthermore, if objects and/or people did cease to exist outside of conscious awareness, where are they being recalled from when they enter back into your awareness? Your use of the words "bring anything into the container" imply they are coming from some "where". They had to keep existing somewhere, else where would they be recalled from? From what template would you paint your creation if they completely ceased to exist?

And in the same post:

Some people say that we can't see consciousness, but I don't agree, if you want to see it, just take a look around at your present moment awareness, everything there right now including you as the observer is consciousness.

And then in a different post:

Consciousness isn't shared, it isn't people and it isn't everywhere. It's a noddle baking illusion/perception indeed, but it makes sense (to me) so it works for me.

Can you resolve this apparent contradiction? On the one hand you are saying consciousness is everything you are aware of, and in the other you are saying consciousness isn't everywhere. Perhaps I'm misinterpreting.

Inspect, accept or reject.

Let's try on option one for awhile.

As always, I appreciate any clarifying comments you have Max.