Originally Posted by agnostic
I'm supposed not to trust my own eyes, but believe in my fantasies instead? This doesn't sound very empowering to me. Delusional, yes, but not empowering. At least not in the long term.
It's not that easy. I agree to the degree that you co-create your own experience. Your beliefs undoubtedly influence your perceptions - a lot.
But it's more probable that poverty will continue to exist out there when you stop looking at it. If a giant truck comes rushing towards you and you just close your eyes, the truck will be out of your perceived universe, yes. But only until it hits you. And then you'll be out of the truck's universe.
Throughout history people have been poisoned by people they have trusted. How do you think that happened? They surely didn't see that coming.
I'm not that well-versed in the Bible, but didn't Judas betray Jesus without Jesus knowing it?
I'm quite certain many people get diseases without thinking about them. I agree that the existence of the outside world is a model (everything is). But it's a pretty good one. I'd even say it's the best one you have.
I think your consciousness-theory applies perfectly to the dream-world. There you can be solipsistic and change the world easily with your thoughts alone. I doubt it applies to this one.
I think it makes you responsible for things you are not responsible for. You are in a great way responsible for your own experience. But not for all of it.
How do you know you're consciousness?
Everything you have said above is true........for you.
SR is a belief system, a way to look at reality and your life, no one can be convinced of it or made to accept it.
SR has a defined way to look at the world, who and what you are to empower you, but if it's not empowering, then it's hardly helpful is it.
You said, "How do you know you're consciousness?" the answer to that is..........for the same reason I know you're not. People incorrectly think that consciousness is a person or people, but that is incorrect and that's not SR. I (my physical body/mind/ego) is not consciousness, consciounsess creates people, not the other way around.
Consciousness isn't shared, it isn't people and it isn't everywhere. It's a noddle baking illusion/perception indeed, but it makes sense (to me) so it works for me.
The best way I've found to describe consciousness is to call it a container. Everything inside the container, including the container is consciousness, but nothing
outside exists. Consciousness creates everything inside the container including an observer inside to observe creation. Everything is created by consciousness instantly and then the observer observes the manifestations. Consciousness creates time to experience growth and non manifestation to maintain a believable reality inside.
Welcome to the container, welcome to SR.
Inspect, accept or