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Old 11-13-2006, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Wulfen View Post
Holden:

Mystery Method is not a set of lines and routines. The book is filled with a lot of lines and routines, of course, but that's because they are used as examples for what the book tries to tell. And also because without the routines, the book would be 10 pages long lol

The core of the Mystery Method is the structure of the game. It's the skeleton of the interaction, it describes the stages through which the interaction has to proceed in order to achieve the desired result, i.e. the seduction. This is called the M3 method and consists of 3 stages: Attraction, Comfort and Seduction, each of them divided into 3 sub-stages. For instance Attraction is divided into: A1: Opener, A2: Female to Male attraction, and A3: Male to Female attraction, or Qualifying.

Now all these subdivisions might sound nerdy, but it's the most intuitive thing to learn in this world. He also explains why is it a bad idea to not proceed in the correct order: for instance why you should never qualify (compliment) a girl (A3) before she's attracted to you (A2), and that is because you're giving her validation for free, thus you appear needy, and she has been already validated so she has no reason to invest in you.

Technical? Maybe. Dense? For sure. Useful? You bet. The biggest risk for this book is that people use the routines in this book instead of grasping the structure and filling it with their own personality. But you gotta crawl before you walk so that in itself is not such a bad thing, as long as you understand the structure.
Hey Wulfen,

All this stuff is pretty interesting. I've never researched and tested out other PUA gurus other than Ross Jefferies, coming from the heavy NLP background that I do.

Have you had experience in the other systems (Mystery method? And my friend mentioned David DeAngelo)? If you have, could you give us a quick comparison?

P.S. Re: personal dev and PUA, I've benefited 3 ways from picking up Ross Jefferies' (Speed Seduction) stuff.

1) Powerful influence. His stuff is NLP, but distilled in an easy to learn way and geared specifically for powerful influence. Look beyond the seduction content if that's not what you want and you can still use the structures to fill in your own content.

2) Understanding of human relations, especially the differences between the sexes. Men and women are hotwired differently, and the principles helped me understand how and in what ways, and opened my eyes to the real dynamics lying beneath our day-to-day interactions.

3) Greater confidence. I used to mess myself up before I even could think of meeting someone new. Now I recognize that many times the other person probably has the same hang-ups, and I focus my attention on building a good state and having fun.
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