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Ilya · 07-23-2007, 05:27 PM

Well, Shamou.
I know this idea, that somehow, some people are not motivated to make more money. Frankly, I think this is hair-splitting.
In the modern world, money is the easiest way to satisfy the lower levels of Malslow pyramid.
So if a person is poor, he will be motivated to make more money. Actually, he won't need any motivation, he will have a natural desire to make more money.
So I think that there are three broad and generalized categories of people truly who do not want more money

1. People so unambitious or so unconscious (because of desease or addiction) that they are poor and still do not want money
2. People who satisfied their basic needs and chose no to pursue the social dream of being wealthy.
3. People who have reached the level of conscious that transcends the need for money. These people pretty much manifest whatever is needed to satisfy their needs and then act as category 2 above.

Now, for category 1 - your quote (and I use it as an example of any similar motivation) can be a wake up call, but they will need much more then that to get better. For them any "you are a loser" motivation can be such a wake up call.

Categories 2 and 3 - It would be evil to motivate them this way. It will be a temptation, an attempt to cloud their judgment and make them bring them down to the lower level of consciousness. Why would we do that.

I don't like the way your quote works. It is intended to hurt a person's pride and self-esteem, to evoke a defense reaction, an adrenaline rush and a stress. Then, I assume, the speaker offered some solution, that would reduce this stress. Now, this is a standard presentation technique, but it's aim is usually to make the audience choose a particular solution offered by the speaker over the alternatives, and not to educate.

I think I'm expressing my concerns about the genre of motivational speech in general, not this particular quote. But the example is typical - people are motivated to reach a goal they are already motivated to reach, while knowledge and training would be more suitable.

But, since it is not possible to teach 3000 people at once effectively, more and more people choose to motivate instead.

07-23-2007, 05:27 PM	#30 (permalink)
Ilya Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 452	Well, Shamou. I know this idea, that somehow, some people are not motivated to make more money. Frankly, I think this is hair-splitting. In the modern world, money is the easiest way to satisfy the lower levels of Malslow pyramid. So if a person is poor, he will be motivated to make more money. Actually, he won't need any motivation, he will have a natural desire to make more money. So I think that there are three broad and generalized categories of people truly who do not want more money 1. People so unambitious or so unconscious (because of desease or addiction) that they are poor and still do not want money 2. People who satisfied their basic needs and chose no to pursue the social dream of being wealthy. 3. People who have reached the level of conscious that transcends the need for money. These people pretty much manifest whatever is needed to satisfy their needs and then act as category 2 above. Now, for category 1 - your quote (and I use it as an example of any similar motivation) can be a wake up call, but they will need much more then that to get better. For them any "you are a loser" motivation can be such a wake up call. Categories 2 and 3 - It would be evil to motivate them this way. It will be a temptation, an attempt to cloud their judgment and make them bring them down to the lower level of consciousness. Why would we do that. I don't like the way your quote works. It is intended to hurt a person's pride and self-esteem, to evoke a defense reaction, an adrenaline rush and a stress. Then, I assume, the speaker offered some solution, that would reduce this stress. Now, this is a standard presentation technique, but it's aim is usually to make the audience choose a particular solution offered by the speaker over the alternatives, and not to educate. I think I'm expressing my concerns about the genre of motivational speech in general, not this particular quote. But the example is typical - people are motivated to reach a goal they are already motivated to reach, while knowledge and training would be more suitable. But, since it is not possible to teach 3000 people at once effectively, more and more people choose to motivate instead. __________________ Ilya.