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Old 07-21-2007, 07:04 AM   #46 (permalink)
cylon
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Originally Posted by MrBig View Post
I’m conscious of my awareness and I subjectively interpret my surroundings (an objective reality) with my faculties. When I observe an object, an event, etc – I interpret it based on a number of factors (my beliefs, feelings, prior experience, etc).

My ability to observe something has nothing to do with an existence of an objective reality. Right now, I cannot observe my best friend, because he is in a different location, but he exists regardless of my current ability to observe him.
That's the whole thing. You are interpreting it. You are talking about what we both agree SHOULD be accepted as objective. But since it's you talking here on this thread, all you can offer is something subjective, and I as well. Your thinking that he exists outside your awareness is only coming from your awareness, not mine or anyone else's. And I know you aren't calling your friend saying "you still exist right? You still there dude?" You just take it as a given. What you perceive is enough proof for you.

Just like I would say my friend is over there... that's my perception that I share with you. I can't prove it either, I just take it for granted that it's a fact that should be obvious to anyone. But it's still my perception.

I guess you're saying objective things are objective because enough people have subjectively said it's so. No way to escape that the only way to experience anything is through that subjective lens.

In any case, the idea of LOA in itself is a pretty large shift in awareness. We may not be talking about gravity but the idea that you can control reality through your thoughts, and the idea that the universe exists because of your thoughts, I don't see them as so far removed (from at least being a possibility).

I mean the other day my dad comes up to me and says, "I heard something strange on the radio, that reality is really only our perception"... my Dad doesn't say stuff like that. Come to think of it I wonder what Max would say about my Dad telling me this.

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