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Old 07-20-2007, 04:48 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I recently read a profound description of what SR may be like, and here's a copy of the post. The questions are provided for context

Why would the Saints, who were at union with God, create demons???????
That is illogical.


I understand what the person is trying to say. It's that they have their own 'inner demons' that are really aspects of themselves, unconscious perhaps, then manifesting in the world. If the world that is seen 'out there' is only a manifestation of what is 'in here', then demonic attributes to the world are really coming from inside, which is rather obvious in 'that state', or it infact may not be obvious, which would then really suck... The thing to do is realize that it is coming from some inner position, and then try to figure that out through so-called 'inner work'.

These demonic attributes of course, are only the ego, and so if you want to stop experiencing a hellish world while your third eye is open (or whatever it may be), then you of course, opt for spiritual purification. Now instead of hell, you see heaven, and the world reflects that back. It's all on how you percieve it, and the universe knows that too. It's very intelligent.

The opposite of creator is destroyer.
And of course, the destroyer creates destruction? They're not opposites, they're different aspects of the psyche. Do I wish to be benevolent, or violent in the energy field I put out? Not opposites at all.

When you "create " your reality how does that affect the realities
created by others?

It doesn't at all because there is 'no others' and they are one with you. Your reality IS there reality. However, they may not be experiencing this unity that you are experiencing. They are 'unaware' of this beautiful karmic dance of one-ness. That is because this level of perceiving the world is only coming out of a certain level of awareness - many are operating on OTHER levels of awareness. However there is an un-spoken recognition that ALL is aware of this, however they are simply not aware that they are aware. Plants and animals operate perfectly in this synchronicity, as do humans. It is all one infinite karmic dance that all participate in, because God is in everyone. God expresses himself perfectly through everyone, as if only to speak to you.

Other people don't experience this though, and so if you try and explain it to them, they will not understand at all. They'll ask you what it is, and you'll say "It's this.. This thing.. ... This.... thing... .. " And that's all. But in your own psyche, there is a known recognition that they won't understand what you are trying to say, and there is also a recognition that it is meant to be that way. That their 'not understanding' is perfect. Because it just will make it more wonderful for them when they realize what it was that they were missing all along. The recognition will be so profound upon there minds. It was all okay all along, they were held in perfect safety. They were, Gods Son, etc. All that stuff.

So they don't experience this oneness, instead they experience normal, average, daily perceptions. So it is said that the universe is a 'karmic whole' or 'unity'. What I percieve will radically alter and change the universe, however it will do so perfectly and concordantly into the lives of others, not just on this planet, but in this universe, and the other universes, and this dimension, and the other dimensions. It's all a whole. We all affect everyone else, because there is no-one else'. It's like a big, gigantic kaleidascope of karma and action and unity, held together by God consciousness operating underneath it all.

Do the realities created by others affect your reality??
Yes, but at the same time, no, because there's no difference between their reality and your reality, when you see the connecting principle operating underneath it (God). When you see that, you see that your all operating as a whole. It's hard to explain, but trust me, it's not the way you think. It's not like "I am controlling others" or doing this "against there will" - It's like that only if you channel negativity in that state, which only brings you to hell, and so you rigorously avoid all negative thinking because you realize it's essence, and how much more wonderful God is (because God is life). It's like the universe is ONE ORGANISM, and the actions of yourself, others, and everything inbetween, is one karmic dance. Every thought or change in your level of consciousness radically alters whatever happens, and this is the infinite quantum potentiality.

However, at the same time, the only thing it alters is the temporal. It in no way changes your ultimate reality, which is forever changeless and unalterable. The only thing you change is the world of effects.

Wouldn't it be true that if each person created their own
reality then at times their reality would clash with another's???

Hmm, a more accurate way to put it is that each person creates their own perception of reality, which then creates the 'out there' because consciousness is very powerful, especially when you realize unity. Whatever happens 'out there' is an illusion, and is only really pointing to what happens 'in here'. It is a .. confirmation .. it is creation.. it is Yourself? Not you "Marilyn" or you "Peter", but beyond the names. Beyond the duality of Me and You... There is God. Thus you have cause and effect. The rope and the snake. This is all at least, from my point of view. But i'm sure it's all pretty limited in other ways.. Hawkins talks about the death of the self and all, sheesh, sounds like he wants you to throw yourself into hell. Hehe! But I guess that's enlightenment for you, "Iy Caramba!" Oi ..

If you are the only one that exists then why is my reality different
from yours?

When I say I am the only one that exists, I mean that in the sense that with I, also comes along you, yet somewhere, we are united as one, and THIS is what we really are. This takes us back to something primal, primordial, within consciousness. Something that is allowing all action in the universe to happen with perfection synchronicity, recognition, knowingness and divine love, yet this thing, whatever it is, is hidden underneath ordinary consciousness. It is like a connecting principle of all life, and transcends time, words, dimensions, .. everything.. just about everything I think. Maybe not...


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Man, I love this quote:

"God expresses himself perfectly through everyone, as if only to speak to you."

To me, that explains and resolves all the contradictions and questions I had about SR
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