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jdiddy · 11-13-2006, 03:37 AM

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Yes, physics has fascinated me ever since I was a little kid, and finding content on metaphysics has only made me more certain that there's a concrete answer for all of this stuff out there somewhere. In fact I would absolutely love to find a group of people who are knowledgable about physics and open-minded about things that we typically don't think of as "scientific". The more I dig into this the more I'm convinced that there's an intersection out there somewhere where the two meet, and everything makes sense. Unfortunately, I haven't had a whole lot of luck finding people who are actually interested in both ends of the conversation. People who are interested in physics typically aren't interested in meta-physics, and posting to metaphysics boards seems to results in "it matters if you think it matters" type of responses, which isn't exactly the type of collaboration/help I'm looking for.

Anyway, with that, let me leave you with a post I wrote on another forum a while back that didn't get any intelligent responses, maybe you'll find it more interesting than they did.

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First, what is your understanding of time, and could it be reversed?

I don't think there is such a thing, and I'd like to know what others think about it. To me, if you break it down, time is the way we think about and quantify change. But really time is simply the changing of atoms, strings, or whatever you call matter from one state to another. Even in a clock--the clock's matter is just changing to different locations to change the display or the position of the watch hands. Matter in one of the gears is simply pulled into another spot because it's attracted to others which are influenced by using stored potential energy from a battery or spring. We see the hands of the clock move, and percieve that as a second passing. Meanwhile, our matter has moved a little too, probably our eyes look at the clock while our heart is beating etc.

So really, time traveling back five minutes would just be a matter of changing all the matter in the universe back to the state it was in before it was in the state it is in now, by a certain amount, which we call five minutes.

According to what I understand, when we visualize and focus on something we put energy into it and it becomes more real. Supposedly if you shapechange into something and that becomes 99 or 100% of your reality, people would be able to see you as that thing and that would be more real than your human body. (Not sure if I have that right or not). So what if you spent all that shapechanging energy on a reality where everything is like it was 10 or 2000 years ago? Once that becomes more real that the present, wouldn't that be time travel?

Ok,now I have a question about death that's related to that. According to the theory of relativity, the faster you go, the slower time goes. Light is the fastest thing in the universe, and once you reach the speed of light, time ceases to exist and change stops. Everything breaks down at that point, and the physical rules don't apply any longer. Outside of time, outside of physical laws. And now scientists figured out they can slow light down by changing it (http://news.com.com/Slowing+the+spee...-5387842.html).

So basically when you cease to change, time stops. Isn't that also what happens when you die? We learn that light is pure energy in 4th grade now (http://www.iit.edu/~smile/ph9011.html). If our conciousness is pure energy that can't be destroyed, does that mean our conciousness is light then? When we die we turn into light? That sounds weird.

OR, do we just leave our bodies? Check this out: some scientists now believe that your conscious mind is composed of an electromagnetic field (http://unisci.com/stories/20022/0516026.htm). But if you think about, that would mean that our concious mind is actually a phsyical force, which we can actually measure as EEG. When we die, the EEG stops. The concious mind has left the building, nobody's driving any longer.

This actually makes more sense to me, because they've found that your EEG levels change in sleep. When your EEG is the lowest is when you're in REM sleep, which is also when dreams occur. That must mean that the electromagentic force that is our concious mind is actually somewhere else. And I'm just guessing on this part, if we are FULLY in the present, here and now and focused on this moment, EEG reading should shoot up and our electromagnetic force that is our concious mind would be able to use its full energy to control matter. Like, we should be able to charge batteries by directing energy into them and weird stuff like that.

So anyway, with that background in place (sorry about the long post), here are my questions: Do you think time travel is possible, what do you think happens at the point of death, and do you agree with that last paragraph?

11-13-2006, 03:37 AM	#11 (permalink)
jdiddy Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 62	Physics & Metaphysics @Mnemosyne Yes, physics has fascinated me ever since I was a little kid, and finding content on metaphysics has only made me more certain that there's a concrete answer for all of this stuff out there somewhere. In fact I would absolutely love to find a group of people who are knowledgable about physics and open-minded about things that we typically don't think of as "scientific". The more I dig into this the more I'm convinced that there's an intersection out there somewhere where the two meet, and everything makes sense. Unfortunately, I haven't had a whole lot of luck finding people who are actually interested in both ends of the conversation. People who are interested in physics typically aren't interested in meta-physics, and posting to metaphysics boards seems to results in "it matters if you think it matters" type of responses, which isn't exactly the type of collaboration/help I'm looking for. Anyway, with that, let me leave you with a post I wrote on another forum a while back that didn't get any intelligent responses, maybe you'll find it more interesting than they did. ***************** First, what is your understanding of time, and could it be reversed? I don't think there is such a thing, and I'd like to know what others think about it. To me, if you break it down, time is the way we think about and quantify change. But really time is simply the changing of atoms, strings, or whatever you call matter from one state to another. Even in a clock--the clock's matter is just changing to different locations to change the display or the position of the watch hands. Matter in one of the gears is simply pulled into another spot because it's attracted to others which are influenced by using stored potential energy from a battery or spring. We see the hands of the clock move, and percieve that as a second passing. Meanwhile, our matter has moved a little too, probably our eyes look at the clock while our heart is beating etc. So really, time traveling back five minutes would just be a matter of changing all the matter in the universe back to the state it was in before it was in the state it is in now, by a certain amount, which we call five minutes. According to what I understand, when we visualize and focus on something we put energy into it and it becomes more real. Supposedly if you shapechange into something and that becomes 99 or 100% of your reality, people would be able to see you as that thing and that would be more real than your human body. (Not sure if I have that right or not). So what if you spent all that shapechanging energy on a reality where everything is like it was 10 or 2000 years ago? Once that becomes more real that the present, wouldn't that be time travel? Ok,now I have a question about death that's related to that. According to the theory of relativity, the faster you go, the slower time goes. Light is the fastest thing in the universe, and once you reach the speed of light, time ceases to exist and change stops. Everything breaks down at that point, and the physical rules don't apply any longer. Outside of time, outside of physical laws. And now scientists figured out they can slow light down by changing it (http://news.com.com/Slowing+the+spee...-5387842.html). So basically when you cease to change, time stops. Isn't that also what happens when you die? We learn that light is pure energy in 4th grade now (http://www.iit.edu/~smile/ph9011.html). If our conciousness is pure energy that can't be destroyed, does that mean our conciousness is light then? When we die we turn into light? That sounds weird. OR, do we just leave our bodies? Check this out: some scientists now believe that your conscious mind is composed of an electromagnetic field (http://unisci.com/stories/20022/0516026.htm). But if you think about, that would mean that our concious mind is actually a phsyical force, which we can actually measure as EEG. When we die, the EEG stops. The concious mind has left the building, nobody's driving any longer. This actually makes more sense to me, because they've found that your EEG levels change in sleep. When your EEG is the lowest is when you're in REM sleep, which is also when dreams occur. That must mean that the electromagentic force that is our concious mind is actually somewhere else. And I'm just guessing on this part, if we are FULLY in the present, here and now and focused on this moment, EEG reading should shoot up and our electromagnetic force that is our concious mind would be able to use its full energy to control matter. Like, we should be able to charge batteries by directing energy into them and weird stuff like that. So anyway, with that background in place (sorry about the long post), here are my questions: Do you think time travel is possible, what do you think happens at the point of death, and do you agree with that last paragraph?