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Xin · 07-19-2007, 10:17 PM

Now that I grabbed your attention, let's discuss it.

As of lately, I'm beggining to think that goal-setting is not an actual system to follow, to die-and-live for. Think of a bicycle: when you wanted to learn how to ride one as a kid, you probably used some extra-wheels so that you wouldn't fall, right? Or, look at the PUA community: techniques, methods and all the alikes are, as some guys put it, for you to learn how to point in the right direction. Thing is, you must learn to ride a bike without extra-wheels. You need to be with a women without a battle plan.

Isn't goal setting the same? I look at the really successful people, and they don't set goals. They are very natural about. Do you think Bill Gates sat down writing pages and pages, journaling about his purpose and doing montly breakdowns of a master-plan to be the richest guy in the world? Now, I don't know if he actually did that (

) but I bet he didn't. He just knew what he wanted, and went for it, at 100%. Think of other really successful people (I know that the term is relative, so use high-achievers instead, if you like). Rock artists, writers, enterpreneurs, actors.

Yes, you can say that setting goals will bring you success. Just look at Steve. Now that's a guy who *really* plans stuff out and he is very successful. But a flawed system may still bring results.

I'm starting to see what you could call a Natural method of achieving. You don't set goals, you don't spend a big portion of your time pondering on how you will behave and what you will do. That stuff is already ingrained in your being.

I, for one, can say that goal setting has only hindered my progress so far. Before discovering goal-setting I'd just go for stuff. Now, I think in plans, in goals, not in what I actually want. Goal setting feels really artificial for me. I know for a fact that there are highly achieving people out there, actors, famous people, wealthy guys, 'just happy' people who don't bother about nothing of this, and get what we plan. It's like, we plan, they get what we plan. They are Natural about it.

Also, it may be a personality question - some people tend to work well with organized thoughts, others don't. Think of the artistic mess some musicians yeld.

A Will Smith interview really hit a chord on me. He just lives some basic principles, and look at the results. 99,99% of all goal-setters can't brag about having all that success.

Perhaps there's another step, more powerful than goal setting. A more natural way of achieving.

Discuss.

07-19-2007, 10:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
Xin Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 84	Goal Setting is not efficient Now that I grabbed your attention, let's discuss it. As of lately, I'm beggining to think that goal-setting is not an actual system to follow, to die-and-live for. Think of a bicycle: when you wanted to learn how to ride one as a kid, you probably used some extra-wheels so that you wouldn't fall, right? Or, look at the PUA community: techniques, methods and all the alikes are, as some guys put it, for you to learn how to point in the right direction. Thing is, you must learn to ride a bike without extra-wheels. You need to be with a women without a battle plan. Isn't goal setting the same? I look at the really successful people, and they don't set goals. They are very natural about. Do you think Bill Gates sat down writing pages and pages, journaling about his purpose and doing montly breakdowns of a master-plan to be the richest guy in the world? Now, I don't know if he actually did that () but I bet he didn't. He just knew what he wanted, and went for it, at 100%. Think of other really successful people (I know that the term is relative, so use high-achievers instead, if you like). Rock artists, writers, enterpreneurs, actors. Yes, you can say that setting goals will bring you success. Just look at Steve. Now that's a guy who really plans stuff out and he is very successful. But a flawed system may still bring results. I'm starting to see what you could call a Natural method of achieving. You don't set goals, you don't spend a big portion of your time pondering on how you will behave and what you will do. That stuff is already ingrained in your being. I, for one, can say that goal setting has only hindered my progress so far. Before discovering goal-setting I'd just go for stuff. Now, I think in plans, in goals, not in what I actually want. Goal setting feels really artificial for me. I know for a fact that there are highly achieving people out there, actors, famous people, wealthy guys, 'just happy' people who don't bother about nothing of this, and get what we plan. It's like, we plan, they get what we plan. They are Natural about it. Also, it may be a personality question - some people tend to work well with organized thoughts, others don't. Think of the artistic mess some musicians yeld. A Will Smith interview really hit a chord on me. He just lives some basic principles, and look at the results. 99,99% of all goal-setters can't brag about having all that success. Perhaps there's another step, more powerful than goal setting. A more natural way of achieving. Discuss.