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Old 11-12-2006, 09:28 PM   #17 (permalink)
Keith
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Very quick post (I may edit it later):
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Originally Posted by Brutha View Post
The point is that every member of the society has to be in that state.
One member who wants to destroy it can do it.
I strongly disagree. Conscious and Aware people are spectacular problem-solvers. I don't know exactly what their solutions would be (they'd probably vary case-by-case anyway) but I imagine they'd be both compassionate and effective.

The idea is not that everyone would be perfect ; the idea is that the majority would be exceptional and empathic enough to uplift, or otherwise assist, those who aren't quite at that level. But given that caring and responsible childrearing is a natural consequence of a community of Conscious people, malcontents should be an exceptionally small minority.

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Some mental illnesses are caused by some chemical problem in the brain, so there are people who create problems.
Certainly. And I would envision mental health being a much more prominent focus in a Conscious and Aware society. Both treatment and prevention of mental illness would be first-rate (probably better than the current first-rate approach) ; this is exactly the sort of field that compassionate, driven individuals would seek to work in.

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Originally Posted by Scott H Young View Post
2) What's with the consciousness elitism? Frankly you are starting to sound like a bad religion. Simply declaring yourself 'conscious' and that you read Steve Pavlina doesn't make you superior to your fellow human beings. You have a different way of viewing the world, that's for sure, but don't use this as evidence that you are better. Better is subjective anyways.
If you read back over my posts, you'll see that I've noted a couple of times that I don't include myself in the group of Conscious and Aware people - and have explicitly stated otherwise a couple of times.

For purposes of this discussion, "better" (not that I recall using that term) would translate to "resulting in a more efficient, effective and fulfilled society".

And it's not a religion, it's a philosophy. :P

I have to go, but I'll respond to your other points later.
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Last edited by Keith; 11-12-2006 at 09:36 PM. Reason: Respond to Scott H Young.
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