JohnPlace: You raise a useful point about how people's arguments reveal a lot about whoever is arguing and what their 'hang ups' are. I would take this a step further to suggest what people argue about reveals the ideas or situations that cause them the most confusion, discomfort and unresolved feelings. Letting go of negative feelings would suggest forgiveness and no longer feeling the need to control or master ideas, people or situations.
Agnostic: That 'Dawkins Delusion' is priceless! Many thanks!
JimC: The discussion began inviting prople to reflect on beliefs and understanding of "God." Some people separate spirituality from religion. Some people believe God is consciousness, or inside each of us.
Keith: To clarify, I question whether we can't each perceive our own sense of a pattern which people outside ourselves wouldn't see. You said you believe people see things "that aren't there." I would suggest that people have different kinds of perception, different degrees of faith about what they perceive and would like to perceive. Perception can also be manipulated, but ultimately, we see and believe what we choose