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Originally Posted by DanielBrenton  dreams and reality are different versions of the same phenomenon, but that reality is the group manifestation of it. |
I hope you're not saying what I think you're saying. What you seem to be saying is that there is no distinction between social consensus reality and actual reality ("reality is group-subjective") - that is, reality is whatever we agree that it is. Ideas have consequences, and the consequence of that idea is that anyone who disagrees with the group's understanding of reality is out of touch with reality and thus insane. It follows that since the people in this forum all seem to have minority opinions (compared to mainstream society), then we're all insane. And ironically, anyone who believes that reality is subjective is insane because the social consensus of the majority asserts that reality is objective...
"Reality is subjective" Is that statement true? If so, is it subjectively true, or objectively true? Can I say, for example, "reality is subjective for you, but objective for me"? If I said that, I'd be agreeing that reality is subjective for everyone...but if it's the same for everyone, how can it be subjective? On the other hand, if I denied that statement, I'd be asserting that reality is objective. All roads seem to lead to Rome...
By the way, I have formed a new association called the Society for the Prevention of Mathematical Intolerance. Its main idea is that two plus two does not necessarily equal four - two plus two equals whatever you believe it equals, as long as you are sincere in your belief. We are currently accepting donations (cash only - no checks please - for some reason we seem to be having trouble keeping up with how much money is in our bank account!
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