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wolfgang · 07-05-2007, 05:58 PM

Me and my brother were both diagnosts as manic depressives. I took lithium for about one summer and rejected it on my own and stopped going to the pill pushing pyscologist. Any depression was just that I couldn't stay in the manic state and function, sort of like being normal wasn't as fun as being manic. After stoppping lithium I ramped up my meditation, did rebirthing, tai chi, behavioural consoluing, started the coarse in maricles, listened to binorial CDs/tapes, guided relaxations, wrote poems/music, went into nature (camping,hinking) more often, etc, and I'm not having trouble like that manic thing. I don't think people knew how to help me. It was an awakening in my retrospective thinking. But it was too much to operate with, I did need help. Maybe if there were shamen I could have been with in the deep jungle, it would have been normal and be an initiation of some kind. Instead there was no way to tell anyone what the lifted veil feeling/sensing was like. And probably in the jungle the shamen know a plant to take if the awakening is too much. Actually, they take Ayahuasca in the jungles to get into some state that lifts the veil.

My brother took lithium for years and then became a born again Christian and stopped lithium and he's ok now. Although he wants to save everybody(he, he). He's saved by Jesus, he says. He said when he had his conversion, when Jesus came into his heart, it was similar to the manic state, without the ungroundedness of it, w/o delussions of granduer, like a humble balanced version of being mainc.

I wonder, though, if lithium wasn't around, like during the 1800s - society would have put me away as a lunitic who was very excited that I thought I knew something that coulnd't be communicated but would keep trying and have people look at me like I have two heads. Although, friends who visited me during my mania would listen to me and I'd think, I can't make any sense out of what I'm saying. But then friends would say, you know what? you are making some sense. You aren't really "mad".

07-05-2007, 05:58 PM	#28 (permalink)
wolfgang Family Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,566	manic Me and my brother were both diagnosts as manic depressives. I took lithium for about one summer and rejected it on my own and stopped going to the pill pushing pyscologist. Any depression was just that I couldn't stay in the manic state and function, sort of like being normal wasn't as fun as being manic. After stoppping lithium I ramped up my meditation, did rebirthing, tai chi, behavioural consoluing, started the coarse in maricles, listened to binorial CDs/tapes, guided relaxations, wrote poems/music, went into nature (camping,hinking) more often, etc, and I'm not having trouble like that manic thing. I don't think people knew how to help me. It was an awakening in my retrospective thinking. But it was too much to operate with, I did need help. Maybe if there were shamen I could have been with in the deep jungle, it would have been normal and be an initiation of some kind. Instead there was no way to tell anyone what the lifted veil feeling/sensing was like. And probably in the jungle the shamen know a plant to take if the awakening is too much. Actually, they take Ayahuasca in the jungles to get into some state that lifts the veil. My brother took lithium for years and then became a born again Christian and stopped lithium and he's ok now. Although he wants to save everybody(he, he). He's saved by Jesus, he says. He said when he had his conversion, when Jesus came into his heart, it was similar to the manic state, without the ungroundedness of it, w/o delussions of granduer, like a humble balanced version of being mainc. I wonder, though, if lithium wasn't around, like during the 1800s - society would have put me away as a lunitic who was very excited that I thought I knew something that coulnd't be communicated but would keep trying and have people look at me like I have two heads. Although, friends who visited me during my mania would listen to me and I'd think, I can't make any sense out of what I'm saying. But then friends would say, you know what? you are making some sense. You aren't really "mad".