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Old 04-19-2011, 05:34 AM   #6 (permalink)
Luciddd
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1. If subjective reality is the true nature of reality, then why are we viewing an objective reality? Where did this view come from? From my understanding of subjective reality, there are no external influences. so while you can attribute objective reality to factors like social conditioning, the media, etc... these are manifestations, created from intentions, but why would these intentions exist? I guess what I'm really asking is where do the bad intentions come from that require the subjective view to transcend?
Well personally I dont believe in subjective reality as such, I believe in fluid reality Or as Talbot put it "Hologram Universe", basically that while yes, there is indeed the reality we see objectively and it isnt "false" per se, it actually exists it isnt a hard solid reality, more like a program that can be bend. In this model consiousness is understood to originate from the "implicate" order which is basically the place from where the programa of objective reality originated.

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2. How can you teach someone else to view reality subjectively if you believe in a subjective reality? It seems if you want to teach others to view subjectively, you are accepting that they have a consciousness, which directly interferes with the idea of your own subjective reality. Steve, how do you hold both these ideas in tandem?
Consiousness as such, would be just 1 thing, only viewed from different perspectives. Basically yes every person has a consiousness, because is consiousness and linked to it. The world we experience is just a product of the consiousness, and while it may look solid and hard to our bodies which are made from the materials of this objective reality, is no harder than an illussion to the consiousness which is where this reality come from.
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