[Tobias Zimpel]

Originally Posted by unicorn

That happens to most people below 600, do not worry about it. Self discovery may seem like a neverending story...

Well, I guess I'm always trying to be perfect - here and now -, instead of just giving my best. That's a pattern I'm dealing with since childhood.

David Hawkins have made a video on addiction and levels of consciousness where he sayes exactly that: drugs and alchohol removes your "clouds" and take you to 500.

I believe that some drugs can push you far beyond 500 - although I could be wrong, because I might mix it up with things like OOBE, Astral Projection and other things that might happen to people on certain drugs.

Ther reason you get addicted is that you then buy into a lie: that it is the drugs producing the state. Then you give your power away to the drug. The truth is that the drug temporarily gave you an experience of getting in touch with your true self by confusing disconnecting the mind and emotions so you could have a direct experience of what is beyound those. It is the lie that makes the drugs addictive, the truth will break the addiction and set you off looking for your true self without the drugs.

Just to ensure that got it right: Drugs are disconnecting mind an emotions? Or do you mean that it connects them again to the point my mind can observe my emotions without being confused by them? I don't believe you meant any of this.

Do you have a source where I could dive deeper into this topic?

Actually the 400-499 is the level that can be the hardest with emotional problems and can create the biggest messes. Reason without anchoring in ones emotional nature can lead you very much astray.

As David himself writes: It's very uncommon in our society to transcend this level. And I can see why...

Then I have a strong feeling that as I seem to "be" very uncommon, I'm also here to to some very uncommon things.

Reason is linear, reality is not. Emotions are the sensory channels that gives you information about non-linear parts of reality and your preferences within your reality. It is sort of an alarm-system alerting you to what is going on in your mind and around you. It is meant to be a navigational system, but most people in the reason range are too disconnected from that concept.

That's basically what Esther Hicks said about emotions in The Secret: That emotions are there to guide us, to show us if we are on-track or not. I feel that this is true, but it's hard to get from the outside, so I guess I have to go that path myself in order to get proof on this.

When reason takes control it will try to dismiss emotional information with logical linear rationalisations. Emotions that you try to dismiss will get stuck in your system. If you keep doing that for a while you get a faulty wiring of the alarm-system, it's almost like having a fire-alarm starting to buzz for all kinds of events that have nothing to do with fire. Basically your mess is a result of a conflict between reason and emotion, they are not working together to guide your life.

That makes sense. Can I see it as a kind of overload, so these emotions then break through whenever there's the slightest stimulus to the system?

The way to get around it is to stop trying to change the emotion when reason say you should, instead allow reason to rest for a while and ask the emotion what it is trying to tell you, then pay attention to what drifts into your mind.

Is there some general guideline as to what area different feelings belong? You mentioned that anger means that someone crossed your borders - are there other general guidelines to point me in a certain direction? OR am I again traing to reason my feelings away?

Then bring back reason and see if the "reason for the alarm" is a true fire or a faulty wiring.

What if I'm not able to clearly distinguish these two? If I misinterpret my feelings, or what they mean to me?

I guess I still didn't get the concept right, did I?

No matter if the emotion is due to faulty wiring or a true fire, show gratitud towards the emotion and aknowledge that the intention for it was good and trying to help you. Then it will normally let go, as it's purpose was only to inform your conscious mind of something. When you acknowledge that you got the message, the purpose for the emotion is gone, and it is easy to let it go.

That makes sense to me from an intellectual standpoint. But I still find it very hard to apply this.

Then you can make a choice on how to act/react with much greater clarity. Your mind will love that, and the process will be easier for each time you do it.

But still I have to trust in my ability to get this right - or simply do my best, as even when I got something "wrong", I get the experience to learn from.

The levels of consciousness have very much to do with the power to manifest reality. Above 560 even casual thoughts can manifest really quickly, below 200 nearly no thoughts manifest at all unless you act on it, just to give a hint.

I guess I'll simply read Power vs. Force to understand it better. But that makes sense - below 200, you can only "manifest" thoughts though force, vs. at the higher levels, you manifest them by true power.

Ask and it is given I think produces the same confusion about labeling vibration with emotion-names and just get people in the 400 range more reason to supress and control emotions, which is why so many can't get it to work I think.

But at least some of the processes seem to resonate with me. I think I will give some of them a try.

Well you seem to have had glimpses of where you are going, let those be your best guide on how to proceed. Compare advice and reading material on how much they resonate with those glimpses and you have a great tool for discernment on what you should listen to and what to reject.

Yeah, but then again, how do I avoid trying to go the third step before the first one?

What I have been very satisfied with for my self is remote-viewing/remote influencing courses on audio that allows you to practice for reaching higher states of consiousness.

Do you have an example for that?

BTW: What do you think of the paraliminals Steve promotes here? They at least seem to help me relax and learning to focus my mind on something. But still I have the feeling that there are different ways to focus on something (active vs. passive), and that I'm getting something wrong.

There are lot of similar things out there, go for what you feel attracted to and that gives you a feeling of exitement. Luke-warm interest is rarely supportive to learning new skills... I mean something that lets you practice intense focus and stillness of the mind. That could also be martial arts, extreme sports, whatever gets you to be in the now without thought.

Something extreme sounds good to me. But I have not a really clear idea as to what might that be. Bungee jumping or parachuting sounds interesting to me, although that might overwhelm me.

I find it hard to clear my mind when IÄm only sitting or lying araoung (what is called meditation *eg*). When I do something highly repetitive like swimming, it's much easy to focus on the repetitive movement of my body to the point where I stop thinking.

Maybe things like Tai Chi, or really martial arts, could be interesting. Qui Gong seems to me more "static" that Thai Chi, though the gym I'ms sunscribed to offers Qui Gong-Courses as well as yoga.

Hm... the pure abundance of possible choices overwhelms me again, and makes it hard to decide - not for one thing, but against millions of others.

It is your minds resistance to them that makes them turn the volume up. Think of the alarm analogy. It is your body screaming for attention. Listen to the message and pay attention to your emotional side with a loving eye and it will only have to whisper to get through to you.

Autists are known to have very strong and intense emotions. I read one who said that his emotions are quite binary - he described the states as "on/off", although I qould rather descrobe it as "-/+". I'm either totally down or totally down - if I perceive emotions at all.

Anger usually carries the message that one of your boundaries have been violated. Passing that information on to your mind, your mind can have a look at which boundary and in what way. Then let your mind figure out how to deal with it. Try out different strategies and learn which work and which doesn't. The emotion is great as a messenger but very poor as a strategical decisionmaker. That is why mind and emotion needs to be friends and work together, yin and yang in balance, like I mentioned.

And that would be the level of love, wouldn't it?

Anyway, thanks for the example.

Best of luck. By the way, I have never met any spiritual teacher that treats the ego with as much love as David Hawkins, so tell your ego not to worry. It will not have to die, it will only get superb assistance in doing it's job

Then what is the job of the ego?

A quick rading of the pages indexed for the trm "ego" in Power vs. Force didn't explain it to me quite well. I thought of the ego als the part that tries to seperate me from source for fear of losing my identity. But that doesn't even sound true to myself.

BTW: What do you think of Ron Smothermon?

and lots of loving understanding from Hawkins teachings. This whole process of spiritual development is about learning how fantastic you really are!

I have a strong feeling that I am indeed fantastic (as arrogant as that may look) - but I must start to really believe it and embrace it, I think.

Anyway, thanks again for your guidance and the profound insights you shared with me.