[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by jasonivers

In a non-duality reality, which is what I think God experiences (though I don't think that term, experiences, really applies to God), everything is one, there is nothing that is not of one piece. That, however, is abstract to me... not understandable.

The mind is not what can understand being one with all.

The more I let go of the focus on "me", however, the more in tune with God's awareness I become, and the CLOSER to understanding I get. I think that if I were ever to TRULY understand it, I would cease to exist as I know existing, that I would simply be absorbed back into God, no longer aware of myself as separate.

What does it mean to not focus on "me"? Is that not allowing your sense of self to expand? To expand toward being one with everything? I think if you got absorbed back into God, as you say, you will have a devine life. Your body and spirit will be in synch. What do you think Jesus was doing? Did he vanish?

While, approaching this, and gaining some shadow of it as an experience is fantastic, as of right now, I'm not really interested in ceasing to exist, as I'm enjoying this experience, this life, this journey of growth. I may simply be growing back toward the awareness that I am a fragment of, but that does not bother me... while I am what I am, I will enjoy it.

I know that it is super facinating to feel just a bit of oneness. There is no end to becoming. Ceasing to exist is not the end result of being aligned with spirit. In fact you become super alive. The experience is richer.

You can say that I'm artificially limiting myself, but if I enjoy it, why not? If you play a game against someone who is not as good as you, don't you sometimes limit yourself by giving them an advantage? That very limit is what makes the game enjoyable... if you each merely played to the full limit of your ability, it would not be very entertaining, with the knowledge that the outcome was already determined.

I'm not sure where this idea started. It sounds like you are saying it's ok to limit yourself to make life more interesting. That seems opposite. I've always thought it gets more interesting to un-limit yourself, to expand your sense of self, do ditch as many beliefs as possible. Then it gets really interesting. Life is not like a game that has an oppounate that is of lesser skill so you have to dumb down to have fun. I just don't see the analogy working, fiting.

The same concept applies to my perception of reality. I do not believe I am God, but I do believe I am a part of Him (as is everyone else, so this doesn't make me think I'm better than anyone else... in fact, it's more likely to prevent such thoughts than cause them). I LIKE the experience of being part of Him, and don't, at the current moment, want to become less of a semi-separate fragment, and simply be absorbed back into the whole.

Being part of God sounds like you are thinking God is something else other than you. God is you. Spirit runs through you and that spirit is not a part of God, it is God. You can still pretend to be a seperate ego that defines everything in sight. That's what Adam started doing in the garden of Eden. That's why that story is in the Bible. It's our fall from grace that allows us to have duality. You will not be absorbed back into the whole if you grow spiritually. The ego that dies is the ego that is clingy and addictive. Being a semi-separate fragment is not how I see experience. Experience is God living through me. There is no separate fragment from being. Abstract as it is, you already are absorbed in the whole. There is only experience as a whole together. There is no way to see without having the seen. There is no seen thing without a seer.