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Originally Posted by Shamou  Glad to make your acquaintance and shake your hand 172...  My guess is that quite a few people feel the way we do however would rather not express their views on the subject so as not to ruffle anyone...
But, I have personally read a great many biographies of successful people... and I have yet to find anyone who expressed any belief in Karma... at least not in modern times... Maybe it's simply because those guys are too busy succeeding to ponder on the Zen stuff... 
I'm not being facetious here... I do personally use that Zen "stuff" everyday... but it's Americanized Zen... huge difference... 
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I hope I haven't offended anyone here. This is my first thread and I am new.
*hiding behind ignorance* That was never my intention. Just constructive dialogue. And, I also am very fond of Eastern spiritual concepts....it's just Karma....that's one that never made sense, particularly with more understanding of LOA.