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Old 06-20-2007, 06:59 PM
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..but can you deny that the problems she speaks of exist ?
no, i'm not, my apologies if you understood that.

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Since a few of you seem to think Islamic culture with Muslims have contributed much in the way of progress, development and making the world generally better...
ok, perhaps i misunderstood you but i found your tone very condescending and it annoyed me profoundly , sorry for my "proces d'intention".

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I think most people in the Western hemisphere would do hard to name a Muslim who had contributed something beneficial to their daily life.
..so what ? it's a criterion for what exactly ?
i want to clarify that my point was not to induce a talk on the possible influences or lack of influences of muslims or islam on westerners.. there are very good talks in universities on these subjects, i'm sure you can have some very useful information there, it can be interesting.. but for me, it's not relevant, i just don't care :
i can't see much beneficial contribution to my daily life from aborigens, inuïts, tutsi or many other people, but this is not making them lesser men or lesser civilisation or whatever less,...
and i felt this kind of insinuation from your message, and once again, if i feel too much (i'm a feeling guy.. the french lover cliché you know.. ), sorry.

My point is simply that it's so easy to condemn 1/5 or more of humanity for what a small minority of bloody barbarians do.
i'm not buying this theory condemning systematically one side, one people, one faith. There is blood on many many hands, jews, muslims, christians, easterners, westerners, chineses, japaneses, koreans, whites, blacks, arabs and so on..
History is full of blood.

This women has her point of view, i respect that, but Geopolitics in middle-east is far more complicated than good-progressist-educated-jews versus bad-primitive-retrograde-arabs-muslims.
Islam--> terrorist or Basque-->terrorist or Hutu--> murderer or Khmer-->barbarian et caetera et caetaera... sound just ridiculous shortcuts to me, whatever "beneficial influences" or not those people had on me, on westerners, or on anyone.

My apologies for the long message and my poor level in english .
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