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Old 06-20-2007, 02:26 PM
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Ugh, I so loathe what popular culture has turned karma into. I don't believe in the cosmic intelligence lining up events to make you suffer either, because people I've met seem to completely miss the point -- they moan on and on about their bad karma, they're being punished, they're bad people, they'll never deserve forgiveness, and they can't undo the bad thing that so very indirectly made this bad thing happen (convenient, eh?) ... Come on! It's a learning process, not an excuse for a self-pity party! And if they wallow instead of acting like they don't deserve this bad thing and stopping it happening, then it seems they're not learning a thing except maybe that pity is a cushy thing to have from everyone and self-destruction is an acceptable lifestyle.
This is the part about karma I don't "get". Many, MANY an "evil" or selfish, or inconsiderate people have not reaped their just desserts for their actions when those actions have affected others or been unjust in some way. How do we explain that? If they don't consider their actions to be "evil" or selfish or inconsiderate or damaging to others, then, what happens to the law of karma in the vacuum of the absence of consicous guilt/responsibility? If you don't BELIEVE you've been offensive....karma seems to lose it's power.....which brings me back to the original point....that karma, if believed in, manifests, but if not subscribed to, not expected, not believed in....never seems to materialize. ALSO....which set of mores, values, belief-systems, etc. does karma function through? If you are a Chrisitian, funtioning through that belief system, does karma become that and judge you based on that framework? What if karma is Hindu? And, I'm not? Do I get punished for having a steak? It's all too subjective.

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Oh, and announcing, "Karma will get you back," as if they have that kind of authority? Is worse. It's like Karma is their buddy who is built like a brick wall but isn't very bright and will pound anyone down who his friend asks to... not the holy universal algorithm that ought to be respected for its impartial process and won't be called up to satisfy a petty vengeance.

I ought to feel compassion for the people around me who are so lost they need to do either of the above, but... I'm getting a lowered vibration myself... I just get annoyed.
This is the part that really got me suspicious about karma in the first place. Too many people wield it like a weapon....especially when they are the wounded party. But, they are really ill-equipped to determine if consequences are even in order. It's all too sticky.
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