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Originally Posted by Amadeus  To answer Aiden's question about how come God gives some people (government) the right to tell what others can do with their bodies, I think he judges whole communites (countries, towns, families, couples) based on their following of the Word. If a country allowed it's citizens to be unlawful (kill, steal, etc.) there would be a huge consequence to this disobedience (spiritually and secularly).
Your argument that a woman should have a right over her own body because the child can't speak for him or herself is wrong. The government has to step in to protect the innocent and weak (especially children). |
Thanks for replying, Amadeus. You're right that part of the governments job is protecting the weak and innocent. But for one thing it is not clear at what point foetuses become human beings in anything but genotype. Or rather, it's clear to some people, but those people can't enforce their judgments on others. Since religion under a secular government is the province of personal choice, and religion not science claims that the issue is so clear, abortion
is about a woman's right to her body. If you don't believe this, fine. Don't perform abortions. The bottom line is that what you are doing is force and you'll be met with force. That's freedom for you.
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This slippery slow is going on in China as we speak where you can only have one child. Many couples want boys so the girls are aborted, dissapear, or sold into slavery. The Chinese government turns a blind eye to this. Do you think that it is right for the Chinese government to do what it is doing so it's citizens can participate in "planned parenthood" and be "pro choice" in order to have a boy. If the mother can take ultrasounds to find out the sex of the baby, would it be ok with you if she aborted 5 baby girls to get her boy?
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You call that "pro-choice?" Fewer abortions would be performed in China if the government gave people full reproductive rights. Similarly in other countries where abortion is legal making it illegal may only make the situation worse by bringing in a bunch of illegal abortions that are as frequent and more dangerous than those performed legally. If you want to stop abortions, remove the need for them; force will only superficially remove the problem.
Unholy thoughts aside, what say you?
