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Old 06-16-2007, 12:37 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by absvan View Post
Max,First of all, I admire your search for the truth and investigating things from a perspective that makes COMPLETE sense...though our mind denies it
Thanks, AB, all I'm looking for is the truth and a way to understand it so I (and maybe others) can integrate it easier into our lives

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Now I am not trying to pick on you and I hope you dont get the impression that I am being a jerk.....................but this is exactly what Steve explained as Subjective Reality (Advaita) in the podcast. You replaced consciousness with the word container. When you say consciousness to someone they think its something outside somewhere else and this is because there are no objects defined in English language to understand consciousness. In SR terms consciousness is all that exists in the present moment including the physical body.
That has been my problem all along. I'm a believer in SR (but you don't have to be to let CT help you ) but the SR concept is based on consciousness being the primary source, but where is it?

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Container seems easier for people to understand because English language has a definition and so Container makes it easier for them to visualize. Just as you have mentioned that you are the container (including the body), SR says you are consciousness (including the body)....infact books on Advaita says that the body is an illusion and is not real....well I dont want to go there now. I dont see any difference. Am I missing something??
The difference is huge (for me) so back to my question, if I'm consciousness and everything is consciousness and people are not consious and the creative force is consciousness, that's great!!

But where the *bleep* is it????

I found it not very helpful to consider I as consciousness was this creative force in my universe seemingly floating and/or being everywhere, it seemed unmanagable, so I simplified it down into a label (that's all these words like SR, consciousness, are) The Container.

Now I'm not trying to steal anyones ideas (Steve uses the word container in his SR series) or become a guru (me no smart enough for that ) or sell anything (you'll never see a link on any of my posts for anything PD related) I'm just trying to make it easier for me to grasp.

SR is a complex belief system (for me) and I need a way to integrate it better, hence the container label and theory. When I post a reply or start a thread, it's always with the intention to help myself and maybe someone else, so mostly I write to explain it to myself first and if someone else gets it and it helps, very good.

You may say why make another uneeded lable? But I need this label to help me grasp it better and it is working for me, so I have to have it.

I hope that answers your questions

Max
"Everything is inside, there is no outside"

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