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Originally Posted by Lallymac  Brutha; As I've said before, my opening post was facetious. We are a long way from having a common understanding of them, let alone universally teaching these skills. Who are these experts? Is a scientist an expert in the paranormal? |
Expert=someone who has knowledge in an area.
If you assert that there are people who have those abilities, they are the experts. That leaves them with the burdon of proofing that the have those abilites.
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In terms of value or worth, surely that can only be judged by the individual experiencing it?
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If you can't do something which gets noticed by someone else than yourself, you don't have useful skills.
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The memory of the levitating guru is clearly emblazoned in my memory.
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It is no clear memory. If it were you would remember the name of the guy who did it.
By meditating you go into a highly suggestive state.
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Brutha, how do you or I know that you are not hallucenating?
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That is the main argument, personal memories aren't enough to make judgement over the nature of reality. You get multiple witnesses for a single event. In the best case your witnesses are computers/cameras.
I'm not talking about cartesian doubt.
With a bit of setup it is easy to get a a bit over the ground illusion.
In addition it isn't that difficult for a skilled hypnotherapist to create that sort of memory in a highly suggestive individual.
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The bottom line is our own happiness and fullfillment.
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You seem neither to be happy nor fullfilled. You rather seem to have some sort of anger on the western world. Maybe fulled by your childhood (which you told us about in another thread).