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Originally Posted by sorter  Picking apart the logic of this issue is very enlightening about how we value and think about life and related "rights." |
I agree.
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So, if a surrogate will have your baby for you, than you have no right to abort it, correct?
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The person who is serving as host to the fetus has the rights, so long as it is part of her body, imo.
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Those are ideas about something real--a fetus.
More ideas. A fetus has it's own body, it's just dependant on yours.
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Yes, For me personally, the 'idea' of the fetus depending 'solely' upon a woman's cooperation and body for it's life is of extreme importance regarding this issue.
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A fetus has potential for life just as much as anyone else. Saying it's not a life is irrelevant.
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The key word is 'potential.' The pregnant woman is not a 'potential' human...she is a full-fledged, fully developed human being....while debate abounds over whether or not an embryo constitutes a human being, fully deserving of rights, no such argument exists when it comes to an actual woman.
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t4488's hypothetical person (let's call him Bob) is equally dependent on you.
And my addition to the hypothetical, both Bob and the fetus are an equal burden or risk to you.
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I'm guessing that 'Bob' is not an embryo, devoid of full human development then? If he is a fully developed human being, capable of feeling, thinking and experiencing suffering, pain...who has hopes and dreams and a desire to continue his life, I would view him as differently than an embryo in a woman's uterus, yes...and would not personally find it ethical to remove him from my experience.
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If you're pro-choice you can kill the poor bastard.
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Not me....I'm only pro-choice when the life in question resides in the body of another human being....ie; is not yet a fully developed, full-functioning human who can live outside the body of it's host.